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    Hmmm, http://www.gearhead-efi.com/Fuel-Inj...B-Coil-on-Plug

    My daily driver 1999 S10 is V8 powered (L31) with an '0411 coil-on-plug conversion.

    Challenge - Is a custom '0411 operating system required for the 4 cylinder engine? It's my understanding the '0411 was never used with a 4 cylinder engine.

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    Sometimes converting to fuel injection requires leveraging a fuel injection system from a similar engine. Back in the "hay day" of TBI there were many adaptions to non GM engines. The Nuts & Bolts of TBI was simple, easy, and well supported by the aftermarket. Fast Forward to OBD2 with Coil-on-Plug . . . so the question I would be asking myself "if I" wanted to convert a Jeep 2.5 to OBD2 fuel injection / coil-on-plug is . . . what GM Inline 4 Cylinder is OBD2 fuel injection / coil-on-plug that is CHEAP?

    Does CHEAP mean only DIY software for Tuning? Does CHEAP mean No Aftermarket Support for EFI parts? Does CHEAP mean only junk yards have the "Nuts & Bolts"? Does CHEAP mean 10,000 plus likes on YouTube or Facebook?

    It's your Jeep 2.5 liter engine, your in the drivers seat to determine CHEAP, not me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dave w View Post
    Hmmm,
    Challenge - Is a custom '0411 operating system required for the 4 cylinder engine? It's my understanding the '0411 was never used with a 4 cylinder engine.
    He said in his first post that he was planning on using V8 tune with injectors disconnected. I was considering doing the same for a different i4 project, but lack of information from others that had, and needing a crank reluctor made me decide to do something different, but when researching I did find a number of others who have done it. Seems like I couldn't find for certain if rpm settings had to be modded, and which cylinders were deleted.
    Anxious to see the outcome.
    No need to re-invent the wheel. But we can make it better

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    Quote Originally Posted by dave w View Post
    Sometimes converting to fuel injection requires leveraging a fuel injection system from a similar engine. Back in the "hay day" of TBI there were many adaptions to non GM engines. The Nuts & Bolts of TBI was simple, easy, and well supported by the aftermarket. Fast Forward to OBD2 with Coil-on-Plug . . . so the question I would be asking myself "if I" wanted to convert a Jeep 2.5 to OBD2 fuel injection / coil-on-plug is . . . what GM Inline 4 Cylinder is OBD2 fuel injection / coil-on-plug that is CHEAP?

    Does CHEAP mean only DIY software for Tuning? Does CHEAP mean No Aftermarket Support for EFI parts? Does CHEAP mean only junk yards have the "Nuts & Bolts"? Does CHEAP mean 10,000 plus likes on YouTube or Facebook?

    It's your Jeep 2.5 liter engine, your in the drivers seat to determine CHEAP, not me.
    I have looked at GM Delco 4 cyl PCMs and the support just isn't there. I'm sure some of the guys over on the Delco board could do it, but I'm not that guy.
    I've read a lot about the 0411 and think I can do this. Yes I know the 0411 was never put on a 4 cyl engine by GM.



    Quote Originally Posted by ralmo94 View Post
    He said in his first post that he was planning on using V8 tune with injectors disconnected. I was considering doing the same for a different i4 project, but lack of information from others that had, and needing a crank reluctor made me decide to do something different, but when researching I did find a number of others who have done it. Seems like I couldn't find for certain if rpm settings had to be modded, and which cylinders were deleted.
    Anxious to see the outcome.
    Yes I plan to run it on a V8 tune, so we'll see how it comes out.

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    HPTUNERS supports many GM 4 cylinder controllers. NA and turbo. This is one of those things where I am sure you can do it, but why would you... BTW, Hptuners also supports the 4.0L Jeeps for a few years now....

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    Quote Originally Posted by tayto View Post
    HPTUNERS supports many GM 4 cylinder controllers. NA and turbo. This is one of those things where I am sure you can do it, but why would you... BTW, Hptuners also supports the 4.0L Jeeps for a few years now....
    I have HPtuners. I've just had bad experiences with them and don't want to give them anymore of my money.
    My YJ is a 1987, nothing on it, as far as wiring, is much good.

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    i see, good luck with your project..worst case you can run a TPI ECU ('730) it will run 4 cylinder with 4 injectors and did so from the factory. Also came in a weather sealed engine compartment mounted ECU ('727). you could also run DIS, it's not CnP but is still not a bad system and cheap. guess it's not as cool as the LS stuff, but it's bee. hacked for a long time now.

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    Also if you go that route unless you go DIS, you don't need a crank trigger.
    You could also run custom code, such as s_aujp, or code 59
    No need to re-invent the wheel. But we can make it better

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