ALDLdroid

[3400tZ]

Hey guys, I'm the one developing this! I'm 91z24 on v6z24 and 90BlueZ on 60degreev6, and 3400tZ around here... such a terrible idea to have usernames based on the car I own since I had quite a few Z :P

Robert, I'm glad some people are realizing the amount of work required to do this, not everybody does :) I could say the same with ripping hair out for the work you're doing on the firmware side tho :) I'm more into higher level type of programming. I'm really having fun with Android lately.

Chris, if you have an ostrich for sale, you might end up with enough money for an Android device :P I would like to add real-time tuning to the app at some point but it will be a while.

As Chris said, the value displayed on the dashboard are currently just random garbage until I get the ECU comms working. I should receive all the stuff I need for my bench test late next week and will have everything working soon after that I hope. It is the most important part of the app really, so I have to focus on it very soon as most of the other stuff is usable for a first version.

[RobertISaar]

i can't really do higher level languages at all(yet).... i can get arduino code to work out, but beyond that i'm lost.

[3400tZ]

Yeah, it's totally different! I'm too used to high level stuff now that when I get into low level stuff, even Arduino, I felt like I had to code everything from scratch and I got fed up. I had a similar project (as ALDLdroid) for MegaSquirt but Arduino based, but I felt like it was a waste of time as I could do the same so much more easily and with a much more powerful result on Android.

Robert, do you have an Android device ready to test this thing ? :)

[RobertISaar]

i have what is left of my wife's tablet.... killed the screen and touch sensor after a fall, but the HDMI output likely still works. if only i had something that would accept HDMI natively....

[34blazer]

Hey guys, I'm the one developing this! I'm 91z24 on v6z24 and 90BlueZ on 60degreev6, and 3400tZ around here... such a terrible idea to have usernames based on the car I own since I had quite a few Z :P

Robert, I'm glad some people are realizing the amount of work required to do this, not everybody does :) I could say the same with ripping hair out for the work you're doing on the firmware side tho :) I'm more into higher level type of programming. I'm really having fun with Android lately.

Chris, if you have an ostrich for sale, you might end up with enough money for an Android device :P I would like to add real-time tuning to the app at some point but it will be a while.

As Chris said, the value displayed on the dashboard are currently just random garbage until I get the ECU comms working. I should receive all the stuff I need for my bench test late next week and will have everything working soon after that I hope. It is the most important part of the app really, so I have to focus on it very soon as most of the other stuff is usable for a first version.

Hey Seb, ill trade you my Fox for your Z, sound good?


LOL welcome!

[EagleMark]

Not sure what your long term plans are... but I have an Android and a Innovate OT2 with Bluetooth. Only has an app for iPhone though.

[3400tZ]

Hey Joe, sure lets do this so I can register on another forum as 87Fox....

Mark, not sure what you mean ? You would like support for that in the app ? I'm not too familiar with the OT2 but that's for ODB2, isn't it ?

[delcowizzid]

what are you planning to use for data cable and transmission.one of our forum guys has had aldl being sent via wifi using an old router as an aldl cable and comms unit as well as logging and as track telemtry device
http://pcmhacking.net/forums/viewtop...5&hilit=router

[JeepsAndGuns]

I'm curious too on what will connect the vehicle to the droid device.
I have a samsung galaxy S4, and a $0D 16197427 based MPFI system. Not sure if any of those can be used to test. I have a moates autoprom for datalogging and chip burning, and thats it.

[3400tZ]

Good question. For the first app version, I want three options:

- ALDL to Bluetooth
- ALDL to USB (FTDI only)
- ALDL to Serial + FTDI Serial to USB adapter (there is no difference for the app for this option and the one above)

With Bluetooth, you just connect the cable in the ALDL port and pair the Android device to it and you're good to go. With USB, same idea, you connect the cable in your Android device and you're good. Note that Android 3.0+ is required and USB host mode need to be supported on the device. That is usually the case for most device but some need to be "rooted" for it to work.

http://www.reddevilriver.com/ALDL_Bluetooth.php
http://www.reddevilriver.com/aldl.html

I bought these two cables linked above so I will be able to confirm those two work with the app. I'm pretty sure Craig Moates's cables are FTDI based as well, we can confirm with him pretty easily. I could add support for Prolific USB chip as well but the Android drivers are so poorly written that it's not really worth the trouble, they usually give a terrible experience from my experience.

Basically, if someone already has an FTDI based ALDL USB cable and an Android device supporting USB host mode, all they will need is the app and they are good to go.

Most Android devices these days also have GPS, which mean latitude/longitude, speed, etc etc logged into your data logs. Most devices also have triple axis accelerometer, that would also be added to your data log. That mean it will be possible to have a data log displayed in a chart on one side of the screen while Google maps is displayed on the other side of the screen showing where you where at that point in the log. The possibility are pretty much endless for this app.

I will post pictures of my bench test as soon as I have it setup for you guys that still don't get how this will work.

Does that make sense ? :)

[-=Jeff=-]

Any new screen shots?

How is the 160 baud stuff going?

[3400tZ]

No new screenshot and no progress on the 160 baud stuff I'm afraid :/

Might have some time to work on the app tomorrow, we'll see!

[mikew]

The FTDI chips do have an asynchronous bit-bang mode:
http://www.ftdichip.com/Support/Docu...and_Ft245R.pdf

Even thinking about trying to implement something like that would make my head explode... I'd just use the bluetooth adapter and be done with it!

Keep up the good work, and don't explode your head!

[GaryDoug]

The 86 PCM should arrive Monday or Tuesday. If it works, I will capture some waveforms and post them. Might help to know exactly what you have to handle.

[3400tZ]

Cool Gary, let me know, I've gave up on 160 baud for now.

Tonight I fixed some issues with the USB connectivity (mainly two different cause of crashes).