Whatever!!!!!!!!! Gearhead-EFI Edition

**Playtoy_18** · 07-30-2013

I hate Ebay.

Okay,put something on ebay.
I only ever do flat rate shipping pretty much,I loathe shipping stuff and i'll eat a couple dollars so I don't need to estimate.
I got a message from someone asking if I would ship to Brazil.
Told them I would check since it was already packaged up and ready.
Sent them back the shipping total and said sure no problem ($50).
Person won bid (ended friday the 26th).
Sent message asking for paypal address for invoice-no answer.
Next day I see where I can invoice the bidder so I do that.
Nothing else till this morning when I send message saying I was going to relist if no contact.
This is the message I recieved back

"Dear peaches0172001,
Hi,
Excuse me for the delay.
I checked my Credit Card, it was denied. I will contact my bank and pay as soon as I can.
Thank you
- virtual302v8351"

Sounds like the guy has no money,and i'm kinda pissed.
But I tend to overreact on stuff like this.
On one hand,I know contact will be hard to another country and this is that Holley EFI computer so love to help out an enthusiast in another country.
On the other hand,I hate debt,credit and the like-if you have to borrow than you're broke. So I feel he is wasting my time and bid because he wanted it,not cause he could afford to buy it.

What do I do?

**dave w** · 07-31-2013

Originally Posted by Playtoy_18

I hate Ebay.

Okay,put something on ebay.
I only ever do flat rate shipping pretty much,I loathe shipping stuff and i'll eat a couple dollars so I don't need to estimate.
I got a message from someone asking if I would ship to Brazil.
Told them I would check since it was already packaged up and ready.
Sent them back the shipping total and said sure no problem ($50).
Person won bid (ended friday the 26th).
Sent message asking for paypal address for invoice-no answer.
Next day I see where I can invoice the bidder so I do that.
Nothing else till this morning when I send message saying I was going to relist if no contact.
This is the message I recieved back

"Dear peaches0172001,
Hi,
Excuse me for the delay.
I checked my Credit Card, it was denied. I will contact my bank and pay as soon as I can.
Thank you
- virtual302v8351"

Sounds like the guy has no money,and i'm kinda pissed.
But I tend to overreact on stuff like this.
On one hand,I know contact will be hard to another country and this is that Holley EFI computer so love to help out an enthusiast in another country.
On the other hand,I hate debt,credit and the like-if you have to borrow than you're broke. So I feel he is wasting my time and bid because he wanted it,not cause he could afford to buy it.

What do I do?

Send the bidder an offer to retract the bid. If the buyer accepts the retracted bid offer, then Ebay will allow the item to be relisted for free and the seller fees refunded.

dave w

**Playtoy_18** · 07-31-2013

From reading I should be able to outright cancel since it has been 3 days with no payment.I sent a message and told him I will cancel and relist tonight if no payment.
There are no sellers fees i'm aware of,i've put up 7-8 auctions the past week and none of them had fees.
I get emails every month saying I can list X amount for free,I assume that is why.

**dave w** · 07-31-2013

What about the final value fee, which I think is included in "seller fees"?

dave w

**Playtoy_18** · 07-31-2013

Don't underestimate my ignorance,lol.No idea,the only charges i've seen were from paypal so far.
I just revised a listing and it had a note about a final fee but it said free next to it.
I haven't sold anything on ebay for years,got burned by a buyer and paypal both on an AVIC-N2 I sold several years ago.

**RobertISaar** · 07-31-2013

expect an invoice from ebay at the beginning of next month for everything sold during the previous month... that's how they do their FVF fees now.

**EagleMark** · 07-31-2013

Originally Posted by Playtoy_18

"Dear peaches0172001,....

**1project2many** · 07-31-2013

I got a message from someone asking if I would ship to Brazil.
Told them I would check since it was already packaged up and ready.
Sent them back the shipping total and said sure no problem ($50).

Ebay has rules in place that require you to accept bids worldwide if you want to accept paypal. Ok. But I've had experiences similar to yours too many times. So my auction text says "I accept bids from Canada." There are checkboxes for other countries (or there were, I haven't tried to sell on Ebay in a while) but I never checked them. I wouldn't refuse a bid form another country because that can get you into trouble. The strategy seemed to work but I always figured I'd throw out some stupid price for shipping if I was contacted like you were.

**Playtoy_18** · 07-31-2013

Originally Posted by EagleMark

Lol,yeah my wife's account :)
Not like "Playtoy_18" is any better.
I've considered dropping that nick for good several times,but after 17 years might as well keep it since everyone knows it. (Goes all the way back to my days on Telnet :) )

Looks like there are "final value fees" for both the listing AND shipping...
10% ain't bad for an auction I guess,but i'm gonna look close next time because I saw where the popup said free with the final value fee I swear.

Also saw that the last time they sent me an invoice for fees it was 2008,so it has been 5yrs since i've listed anything.

**EagleMark** · 07-31-2013

eBay used to be a good place for auctions and used stuff of all kinds. Now with fees and paypal fees it's priced itself outside that relm... now it's a store of new products at set fees...

**ony** · 08-03-2013

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