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    Quote Originally Posted by Casey96SS View Post
    I know nothing about developing or writing software, but any ideas on why my wideband would work fine with datamaster but not EEHack or Winflash? Would there be anything I could play around with in the COM port settings? Just trying to think of some ideas...
    aldl interfaces run in a state of loopback. the recieving and sending line are the same wire. datamaster doesn't really care if the echoed data is corrupted. eehack does.

    but none of this stuff is driver level

    also i bet datamaster is giving you a bunch of bunk data

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    Quote Originally Posted by steveo View Post
    aldl interfaces run in a state of loopback. the recieving and sending line are the same wire. datamaster doesn't really care if the echoed data is corrupted. eehack does.

    but none of this stuff is driver level

    also i bet datamaster is giving you a bunch of bunk data
    Hey Steve finally had a chance to get my car back together and do a little data logging yesterday with the wideband disconnected. The ABS Inop and Low Trac lights seems to be turning on occasionally while logging. If I look at the graphs in EEHack while this is happening there is a flat spot on any of the data and I cannot double click in the flat area. The lights do not come on if I do not have the laptop hooked up. Hope this makes sense. Any idea what is going on? Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Casey96SS View Post
    Hey Steve finally had a chance to get my car back together and do a little data logging yesterday with the wideband disconnected. The ABS Inop and Low Trac lights seems to be turning on occasionally while logging. If I look at the graphs in EEHack while this is happening there is a flat spot on any of the data and I cannot double click in the flat area. The lights do not come on if I do not have the laptop hooked up. Hope this makes sense. Any idea what is going on? Thanks!
    for your obd-i conversion, make sure only your ecm is connected to the aldl data wire.. sounds like your ABS module is hooked up there; it would be incompatible with the older data

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    Quote Originally Posted by steveo View Post
    for your obd-i conversion, make sure only your ecm is connected to the aldl data wire.. sounds like your ABS module is hooked up there; it would be incompatible with the older data
    It looks like my Red Devil River Cable is reading on Pin 9 which would be Serial Data (UART). (See Pic)

    Car is a 1996 with the OBD-II ALDL connector. I converted over to an OBD-I with the correct knock module.

    Should be reading off Pin 2 Serial Data (Class II)?

    Does that sound right before I get the soldering iron out? Also do you see any issues with the resistor they have installed on there? Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Casey96SS View Post
    It looks like my Red Devil River Cable is reading on Pin 9 which would be Serial Data (UART). (See Pic)

    Car is a 1996 with the OBD-II ALDL connector. I converted over to an OBD-I with the correct knock module.

    Should be reading off Pin 2 Serial Data (Class II)?

    Does that sound right before I get the soldering iron out? Also do you see any issues with the resistor they have installed on there? Thanks!
    I got it figured out after searching the net and looking at the wiring diagrams in my FSM.

    Swapped #2 and #9 wires on the ALDL connector

    Swapped #7 and #30 wires on the blue PCM connector

    This basically eliminated the EBCM wiring from the ALDL data wire.

    It logs just fine now. I wish that would have help my wideband issue, but no luck there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Casey96SS View Post
    I got it figured out after searching the net and looking at the wiring diagrams in my FSM.

    Swapped #2 and #9 wires on the ALDL connector

    Swapped #7 and #30 wires on the blue PCM connector

    This basically eliminated the EBCM wiring from the ALDL data wire.

    It logs just fine now. I wish that would have help my wideband issue, but no luck there.
    It starting to look like my 96 F body with an OBDI PCM is wanting to be a real bastard to log and tune. I previously switched my tan and purple wires from my ALDL to PCM so that it would take the EBCM off the ALDL wire and stop creating dead spots in my logs and tripping the ABS light. This did the trick when logging.

    I went to load a new bin file this weekend for some larger injectors and could not get the bin to load. I tried EEhack and Winflash and neither would work. I could read fine but not write. I switched my purple and tan wires back to the factory locations and both programs write just fine.

    With the ALDL wires back in their factory locations, I tried switching off the setting for "Silence Extra Modules". This seemed to prevent the ABS light from coming on while logging, but is still looking like I was getting dead spots in the data stream.

    Would there be any extra or different modules that need to be silenced on a 96 F body to stop them from interfering with the data stream? Would it be possible to just pull the fuse or relay for the EBCM while logging to avoid the interference? Just looking for ideas....

    I think my only other option would be to swap the ALDL wires back so I can log correctly and then build a bench harness if possible to load bin files. This is definitely getting frustrating! It would be great to be able to use this awesome software to it's full potential on my car.
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    all that matters is PIN 9 at the ALDL connector (bottom left corner). your aldl cable only uses that one pin (and a ground).

    ensure it is connected to D30 @ your ECM (blue 30), this is usually a tan wire. trace that tan wire and make sure nothing else is spliced into it.

    i usually run a fresh wire for it to ensure data integrity.

    disconnect D7 at the ECM (purple wire), it's not needed, but that way you can still use OBD-II diagnostic tools to read codes from your ABS module and whatever else at your ALDL.

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