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    When the suburban is up and running without issues then i will give this a try in my 93 truck with the 8625.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1leg View Post
    When the suburban is up and running without issues then i will give this a try in my 93 truck with the 8625.
    When you get ready, just let us know. The code can be adapted for $E6 or if you switch to $0D then you can use it as is.

    Also, you can use the engine fan part by its self with a normal relay, if you don't need the soft start and transmission fan.

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    I'd like to join in on this too i have two trucks with 8625 running $e6 that have E-fans, and don't want to try to copy all my settings over to $0D in fear of jacking something up.
    87 4Runner, 15" spring lift, 3" body, chevy vortec 355, 5.29 gears, 38.5x15.5x15" Boggers, 280hr, 16168625 running $0D
    93 S10, 36x12.5x15 TSL's, custom turbo headers, 266HR cam, p&p vortec heads, $0D Marine MPFI with 8psi boost.
    05 Silverado, 2' lift, 4" exhaust, Bully Dog programmer,

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    How many things did you change? Wouldn't be that hard, just back up the bin. Take some time in TunerPro. Open 2 instances of TP, old bin new bin and cut and paste from old bin to new bin... you could do every option in an hour.

    My theory, by looking at years is $OD was the last one made, 93V8S10 confirmed it with:
    As far as I know there for the most part completely interchangeable, but I did run across one conversation that some don't have all of the internal hardware for the 4L80E. It never became clear which ones though, sounded like it took a EE with a microscope to find out.
    they probably found one PCM that GM tried to save a buck on for manual trans? Or just a 4L60E? On an early PCM and code mask? In the end they made one PCM to cover all trans and masks saved money. If it weren't for OBDII they may have gotten better and better?

    Back to my theory of looking at masks $OD seemed to be the last one in this string of PCMs so it's a progresion to better and better, all options built in last one. Since we have found 16197427 which is also by looking at years last one, came mostly with $OD, but has been found with other bins and masks in it and has been changed to other masks. So last one GM made would be the best.

    I'm only using $OE on $OD 16197427 PCM becuase a manual bin to strat with has only been found in $OE, I would much rather start with a $OD manual bin. To many changes in bins from manual to auto to start otherwise... wish I could find a manual $OD bin, always been my first choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EagleMark View Post
    How many things did you change? Wouldn't be that hard, just back up the bin. Take some time in TunerPro. Open 2 instances of TP, old bin new bin and cut and paste from old bin to new bin... you could do every option in an hour.

    My theory, by looking at years is $OD was the last one made, 93V8S10 confirmed it with:
    they probably found one PCM that GM tried to save a buck on for manual trans? Or just a 4L60E? On an early PCM and code mask? In the end they made one PCM to cover all trans and masks saved money. If it weren't for OBDII they may have gotten better and better?

    Back to my theory of looking at masks $OD seemed to be the last one in this string of PCMs so it's a progresion to better and better, all options built in last one. Since we have found 16197427 which is also by looking at years last one, came mostly with $OD, but has been found with other bins and masks in it and has been changed to other masks. So last one GM made would be the best.

    I'm only using $OE on $OD 16197427 PCM becuase a manual bin to strat with has only been found in $OE, I would much rather start with a $OD manual bin. To many changes in bins from manual to auto to start otherwise... wish I could find a manual $OD bin, always been my first choice.
    It's not that I made a bunch of changes. I always assumed you had to copy everything whether you changed it or not. i'll give it a shot if it dosent work I can always load a $e6 back to it. I also scowerd the internet when I first started this for reasons the $0D was better than the $E6 but couldn't find any good explinations on what is so better about it.
    87 4Runner, 15" spring lift, 3" body, chevy vortec 355, 5.29 gears, 38.5x15.5x15" Boggers, 280hr, 16168625 running $0D
    93 S10, 36x12.5x15 TSL's, custom turbo headers, 266HR cam, p&p vortec heads, $0D Marine MPFI with 8psi boost.
    05 Silverado, 2' lift, 4" exhaust, Bully Dog programmer,

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    Actually if you start with like bin it would be just the changes you made to like VE. Look in TunerPro forum for tips... When I tune a car I copy the bin, xdf and adx in a file for that car. Then when I make a change in xdf I right click XDF and change parameter name, I add a "+") so I can look back and know what was changed, I add a "-" when it was removed. Those files stay in that folder for car and I always know what was changed and have starting bin, modified bin and data logs.

    I don't know that it is actually better, just the last update to a series. Most documented tuning code is done on $OD, but others are so similar it can be used with them with slight address changes needed. $OD is most popular? Thinking of the trucks it came in most produced is probably why most popular and why most code hacs and tricks are designed in it.

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    Anyway to change coding to also use fan #2 output as engine temp instead of trans temp? Im wanting 2 temp settings cause my fans have low and high. Very efficient as on colder days the temp is consistent on low.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davis_1377 View Post
    Anyway to change coding to also use fan #2 output as engine temp instead of trans temp? Im wanting 2 temp settings cause my fans have low and high. Very efficient as on colder days the temp is consistent on low.
    yes as this is how mine is set up, read the instructions in the setup bin file. there is a bit that needs to be changed to select coolant temp for each fan.
    87 4Runner, 15" spring lift, 3" body, chevy vortec 355, 5.29 gears, 38.5x15.5x15" Boggers, 280hr, 16168625 running $0D
    93 S10, 36x12.5x15 TSL's, custom turbo headers, 266HR cam, p&p vortec heads, $0D Marine MPFI with 8psi boost.
    05 Silverado, 2' lift, 4" exhaust, Bully Dog programmer,

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    I don't see it in the instructions how to change the transmission fan to 2 engine fans. Looking in tunerpro rt i see some scalers and flags I don't see option to change this.

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    under fan b calibration you should have 3 scalars labeled "Engine or Transmission Temperature" 1 through 3. set them all to "AE" as per the scalar descriptions:

    Engine or Transmission Temperature 1
    Location: 70CD


    Set to A2 (00A2 coolant temperature) to use Fan B for cooling engine.
    Set to AE (00AE transmission temperature) to use Fan B for cooling transmission.


    Engine or Transmission Temperature 2
    Location: 70E5


    Set to A2 (00A2 coolant temperature) to use Fan B for cooling engine.
    Set to AE (00AE transmission temperature) to use Fan B for cooling transmission.


    Location: 710A


    Set to A2 (00A2 coolant temperature) to use Fan B for cooling engine.
    Set to AE (00AE transmission temperature) to use Fan B for cooling transmission.
    87 4Runner, 15" spring lift, 3" body, chevy vortec 355, 5.29 gears, 38.5x15.5x15" Boggers, 280hr, 16168625 running $0D
    93 S10, 36x12.5x15 TSL's, custom turbo headers, 266HR cam, p&p vortec heads, $0D Marine MPFI with 8psi boost.
    05 Silverado, 2' lift, 4" exhaust, Bully Dog programmer,

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    I see my problem. I must of been using the older .xdf I found $0D Fan Control v100.zip and it had the scalars I needed. Thanks for yalls help.

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    new at tuning do i add to existing xdf or open fan xdf after and set ?

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    Easiest is to just open the xdf when you want to change the fan settings. Be careful to double and triple check the code you are adding to your bin for e-fans.

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    I loaded the XDF and set my setting it only put hex for those settings.I thought it was going to be that easy, then download a Bin from this topic if you go to page 7 i think you can download it that's how i figured that out it ain't that easy. I have learned a lot from this forum maybe I'll find a write up about writing hex editor If anyone knows somewhere i can learn more please point me in the right direction O by the way I think I got the fans figured out

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