Food for thought

[Six_Shooter]

What's your signature have to do with anything?

I could post a whole bunch of credentials I have as well, but it doesn't really mean much...

[34blazer]

What's your signature have to do with anything?

I could post a whole bunch of credentials I have as well, but it doesn't really mean much...

This^

It's not about certs hanging on your wall.

[Caleditor]

What's your signature have to do with anything?

I could post a whole bunch of credentials I have as well, but it doesn't really mean much...

I work at a GM dealership 6 days a week

[Six_Shooter]

I work at a GM dealership 6 days a week

Your point?

[1project2many]

We're a tough crowd here.

I am implying that the reason TC does not support older Northstar's and Saturn's and every other PCM that WinFlash can not read out is because the common person can not obtain a bin file to tune.

I am also implying that most of the bin files for these said cars came from TIS.

You can buy a pcm at the junkyard and it's yours to disassemble with no legal warnings or disclaimers. You can have your pcm reflashed at the dealer or an independent without signing any agreement not to reverse the box and without receiving any warnings. The message is intended for the technician and software subscriber, not the pcm owner. Once you have a programmed pcm, obtaining a legal copy of the calibration is as simple as reading it then storing it.

In most cases the average person can't obtain any bin files to tune unless they use Winflash to read the pcm first. So that would mean all calibrations and bin files should be off limits. If the bin files we can read are all from TIS, are you saying Saturn and Northstar calibrations are not available through TIS? Considering as how many CD's were thrown away by GM dealers in the '90s and early 2000s I'd be surprised if none of them have any of these calibrations.

You've been at the dealer since 1999. I've diagnosed and repaired vehicles with CAMS and maintained the T10 when it ran PCDOS and WFW 3.11 through subsequent OS upgrades. If you started in '99 you should remember programming back then. SPS did not have a warning about reading cals and neither did the Tech2 when you used it to transfer cals from SPS. Saturn and the older Northstar engines would have had any reprogramming done through that software vs TIS that's available today. The warning you see today would not apply to vehicles programmed with another programming tool.

[Caleditor]

We're a tough crowd here.



You can buy a pcm at the junkyard and it's yours to disassemble with no legal warnings or disclaimers. You can have your pcm reflashed at the dealer or an independent without signing any agreement not to reverse the box and without receiving any warnings. The message is intended for the technician and software subscriber, not the pcm owner. Once you have a programmed pcm, obtaining a legal copy of the calibration is as simple as reading it then storing it.

In most cases the average person can't obtain any bin files to tune unless they use Winflash to read the pcm first. So that would mean all calibrations and bin files should be off limits. If the bin files we can read are all from TIS, are you saying Saturn and Northstar calibrations are not available through TIS? Considering as how many CD's were thrown away by GM dealers in the '90s and early 2000s I'd be surprised if none of them have any of these calibrations.

You've been at the dealer since 1999. I've diagnosed and repaired vehicles with CAMS and maintained the T10 when it ran PCDOS and WFW 3.11 through subsequent OS upgrades. If you started in '99 you should remember programming back then. SPS did not have a warning about reading cals and neither did the Tech2 when you used it to transfer cals from SPS. Saturn and the older Northstar engines would have had any reprogramming done through that software vs TIS that's available today. The warning you see today would not apply to vehicles programmed with another programming tool.

I was in charge of updating TIS. I would say that I know someone that has most of the TIS CD's.

I was told that the EPA was going to come down on Monodax for having bin files stored. I am not sure if this is what happened or not. The source was a good source. I posted a lot of OE bin files on the website myself. I have posted how to get the raw bin files from TIS on a few websites. If I remember correctly Ross removed the steps from his forum.

Has anyone followed the LML tuning issue from the start? http://forum.efilive.com/showthread....tuning-the-LML

I can tune Northstar's. I own a PCM repair company. We repair PCM's when people mess with the part of the calibration that they shouldn't be touching and brick them. We pull good bin files, so it would be very easy to make the connection to how we have obtained the bin files. Currently I have 2415 bin file. Most of them we have tuned.

How many have you tuned?
Can you come up with software that will allow the user to use John's VDF's and Winflash?
We could do it all, but John has been very good to us. I have BETA VDF's that the public may never see. John has given me all of the VDF's by accident before and I still purchase VDF's that Tom or myself do not own. We would like to help take care of John

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[Caleditor]

We're a tough crowd here.



You can buy a pcm at the junkyard and it's yours to disassemble with no legal warnings or disclaimers. You can have your pcm reflashed at the dealer or an independent without signing any agreement not to reverse the box and without receiving any warnings. The message is intended for the technician and software subscriber, not the pcm owner. Once you have a programmed pcm, obtaining a legal copy of the calibration is as simple as reading it then storing it.

In most cases the average person can't obtain any bin files to tune unless they use Winflash to read the pcm first. So that would mean all calibrations and bin files should be off limits. If the bin files we can read are all from TIS, are you saying Saturn and Northstar calibrations are not available through TIS? Considering as how many CD's were thrown away by GM dealers in the '90s and early 2000s I'd be surprised if none of them have any of these calibrations.

You've been at the dealer since 1999. I've diagnosed and repaired vehicles with CAMS and maintained the T10 when it ran PCDOS and WFW 3.11 through subsequent OS upgrades. If you started in '99 you should remember programming back then. SPS did not have a warning about reading cals and neither did the Tech2 when you used it to transfer cals from SPS. Saturn and the older Northstar engines would have had any reprogramming done through that software vs TIS that's available today. The warning you see today would not apply to vehicles programmed with another programming tool.

Just by chance do you rebuild clusters in house and PCM's at the dealer?

[1project2many]

I've rebuilt clusters in the past. Once upon a time the dealer could order many of the parts and it was part of the tech's job to repair at component level. From time to time, if parts and information are available and time allows, I will rebuild same here now.

I rarely have access to new parts for pcm's and service information is nearly impossible to get but more than once I've taken apart one or two failed units and scrounged components to make one good one if there's an obvious issue.

[Caleditor]

I've rebuilt clusters in the past. Once upon a time the dealer could order many of the parts and it was part of the tech's job to repair at component level. From time to time, if parts and information are available and time allows, I will rebuild same here now.

I rarely have access to new parts for pcm's and service information is nearly impossible to get but more than once I've taken apart one or two failed units and scrounged components to make one good one if there's an obvious issue.

This is my thread
http://service-gm-forum.com/techforu...pic=38863&st=0

Yeah I have done a few. 92 clusters this year so far