tunercat how i buy

**dave w** · 12-25-2015

I do not own a Jet DST system, so I Do Not know how TunerCats VDF files or how WinFlash will work with Jet DST.

I do not like the words Jet DST uses in their advertisements, Jet DST is flash only. Jet DST will let you change tuning parameters, remove speed limiter, remove RPM limiter, and remove MIL codes. Jet DST WILL NOT calculate how much CHANGE is required make tuning parameters correct. EFI Life WILL CALCULATE (AutoVE Tuning) how much CHANGE will be required to the tuning parameters!

TunerCats is also Flash Only.

dave w

**Fast355** · 12-25-2015

Originally Posted by dave w

I do not own a Jet DST system, so I Do Not know how TunerCats VDF files or how WinFlash will work with Jet DST.

I do not like the words Jet DST uses in their advertisements, Jet DST is flash only. Jet DST will let you change tuning parameters, remove speed limiter, remove RPM limiter, and remove MIL codes. Jet DST WILL NOT calculate how much CHANGE is required make tuning parameters correct. EFI Life WILL CALCULATE (AutoVE Tuning) how much CHANGE will be required to the tuning parameters!

TunerCats is also Flash Only.

dave w

Just about any good data link software will let you log data and build history tables. History table + Excel = AutoVE. With HP Tuners I can Realtime tune. I have ScanXL and have GM advanced PIDs as well as HP Tuners to datalog. I have datalogged GM, Chrysler, Ford, Nissan and a few others with ScanXL.

**LRT** · 12-25-2015

Originally Posted by Fast355

Just about any good data link software will let you log data and build history tables. History table + Excel = AutoVE. With HP Tuners I can Realtime tune. I have ScanXL and have GM advanced PIDs as well as HP Tuners to datalog. I have datalogged GM, Chrysler, Ford, Nissan and a few others with ScanXL.

You can do AutoVE or AutoMAF with Excel - but correctly filtering the data can be a little tricky - and beyond the Excel abilities of most people. Accurately incorporating real time data from a wide band O2 is another hurdle.

EFILive has an excellent scanner (ScanTool) - it makes data collection, data filtering, and incorporating real time data from a wide band O2 readily understandable for most people.

**aboturky** · 12-25-2015

ok i saw moates and i dont want the full package i just want RTOBD2 software and tunercat interface with winflash i know i should buy rr and i will buy it but a qustion what to they mean when they say this ("RTOBD2" : TunerCat RoadRunner RTTuner with 1 def) they say it comes with cable does this mean the interface i post the link to picture at tunercat ? http://www.tunercat.com/obd2/dealerkit.html
so when i buy RTOBD2 no need to get the interface from tunercat because they already give it to me from moates

**LRT** · 12-25-2015

Originally Posted by aboturky

ok i saw moates and i dont want the full package i just want RTOBD2 software and tunercat interface with winflash i know i should buy rr and i will buy it but a qustion what to they mean when they say this ("RTOBD2" : TunerCat RoadRunner RTTuner with 1 def) they say it comes with cable does this mean the interface i post the link to picture at tunercat ? http://www.tunercat.com/obd2/dealerkit.html
so when i buy RTOBD2 no need to get the interface from tunercat because they already give it to me from moates

Contact Moates directly describing your needs - repeatedly asking the same question here (in a slightly different way each time) isn't getting you anywhere.

**aboturky** · 12-25-2015

The last question :)

I bought the tunercat obdii dealer kit that include the interface cable and winflash software because that is my need now but it has been about 8 hours after I paid and I emailed tunercat but he didn't reply ? :(

**dave w** · 12-25-2015

Originally Posted by aboturky

The last question :)

I bought the tunercat obdii dealer kit that include the interface cable and winflash software because that is my need now but it has been about 8 hours after I paid and I emailed tunercat but he didn't reply ? :(

Congratulations on your purchase, I'm sure you will like the TunerCats OBD2 flash tool.
Most small businesses here in the United States are closed for the Holidays, Dec 24 thur Dec 27th. I'm thinking you will get an email this Monday, Dec 28th, from TunerCats (TC).

dave w

**Fast355** · 12-25-2015

Originally Posted by LRT

You can do AutoVE or AutoMAF with Excel - but correctly filtering the data can be a little tricky - and beyond the Excel abilities of most people. Accurately incorporating real time data from a wide band O2 is another hurdle.

EFILive has an excellent scanner (ScanTool) - it makes data collection, data filtering, and incorporating real time data from a wide band O2 readily understandable for most people.

HP Tuners has an excellent scan tool as well and you can either add the Wideband through the interface or use one of the un-used -5 volt inputs on the PCM to add wideband to your datalog. I use the EGR position pin in my Express. With HPT Pro you get 4 or 5 extra channels for data that go directly into the interface. The interface can also store data without a laptop as well for later playback.

**LRT** · 12-25-2015

I have HPT also. I prefer EFILive's scanner - to me, it is much more user friendly (but the unit also costs more than HPT). EFILive's interface (V2) has 9 inputs (four 5V, two 12V, two thermocouple, and one Serial Data). It can log data, as well as read and flash calibrations on its own (no laptap required). It also has a decent sized screen - where you can view data in real time (whether recording or not).

It is a bit of a Coke vs Pepsi discussion - where personal preference comes into play.