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    It looks like timing issue. Log advance and see if there is huge difference with light throttle and lift off.
    You can try blending the closed tps spark table with the main spark tables at the 25-30 map region.

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    Cheers, I'll play with timing more now the fueling has settled down some.

    Would I be looking for more or less advance in such a lean area?

    Not at the PC now but I had gone back earlier to the Stock LT1 timing table.
    IIRC i'm in high 30's/low 40's for timing in the low map areas.

    Closed TPS advance is currently about 30 at idle rising to about 37 as the rpm's increase.

    Thanks
    Mitch
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    I've spent the weekend playing around, adding fuel and pulliing timing.

    After reading up on some articles i've been playing with the Fuel Injector Adder table and ramped it up.
    I noticed the InjectorPW was was in the 1.30's but fueling was all over the place when ever I got it back to low 14's AFR.
    Whenever it ras idling rich, the fueling was always smoother.

    So now the Injectors have
    about 840 uS on the Injector Voltage (supplied with the injectors)
    530 uS on the Injector Offset Adder table whilst idling.

    Injector PW is around 1.00mS at idle but i'm now rich idling at about 12.5 as expected.

    Driving the car seemed much improved (not certain yet as the car is pig rich low down).
    It did quite happily pull away in 3rd gear.
    After logging, the previous severley lean areas of the VE table all needed to be lowered making it look more normal.

    I'll report back when i see where this goes.


    On a side note, this motor starts off very lean vs the commanded AFR and goes progressively richer as it warms up.
    I've increased the Initial Startup AFR Enrichment Vs coolant temp without much change.
    Restarting today at 60-70C it starts in the 15's and drops down to 13's by the time it's hit the 90's.

    I've read about heat soak with the IAT (MAT) affecting fueling but what i've read suggests the older TPI cars with MAT sensors suffered heat soak & leaned out the mixture.

    Has anyone played with these tables ?


    Thanks
    Mitch
    '95 Z28 M6 -Just the odd mod.
    '80 350 A3 C3 Corvette - recent addition.

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    Evening guys.
    OK tried the car again tonight.
    It always starts very lean and richens up as it warms up.
    I've no idea why.
    I jacked up the initial startup AFR enrichment to 25% but it still starts lean vs commanded... not really an issue

    As it heats up the target & AFR cross over and it was idling very rich but really smooth and stable idle, so I scaled the Injector adder down about 60%.
    Now it's idling between 14 & 16 AFR
    The Inj PW is sat at 0.98 and WILL NOT go any lower.
    ======================

    My Inj Voltage offset is about 854 & Inj Offsets are about 320ms
    Min Inj pulse is set at 0.4ms & use 0.4ms when below

    I suspect my injectors can't operate this low. (Tell me otherwise).

    I don't know which way to go now or if I can try anything else.

    Suggestions please.
    Another set of injectors is too expensive just at the moment.
    I do have a set of 30# i could put back in but I don't see the point.

    Would lowering the fuel pressure down a little with an adjustable reg be worthwhile ?

    Thanks
    Mitch
    '95 Z28 M6 -Just the odd mod.
    '80 350 A3 C3 Corvette - recent addition.

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