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    Well I found another local shop that says they straighten cranks. So I may just go ahead and pull it apart and let them take a stab at it.
    Every time I hit it I cringed with the fear of cracking the case or something. So out of fear, I think I will pull it.
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    With custom rides / custom power trains comes unexpected headaches / nightmares. Grounding the TAC module ... it's a good thing to do!

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    Uh oh... What's this?

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    Haha... one pipe short of the right engine swap! ;)

    Looks good. Lotsa welding and checking to come, eh? Wish I had time to fabricate anything right now. :(

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    that truck is my dream. ls. boost. room to work on it. dont need a jack to do an oil change. i'll take one!

    dont know why im screwing around with f-bodies still, i guess its a compulsion, some kind of sickness. im on like f-body number 12 now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dave w View Post
    With custom rides / custom power trains comes unexpected headaches / nightmares. Grounding the TAC module ... it's a good thing to do!

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    While I respect the time, money, skill, and hard work put into building that truck. I still have to cringe a little every time I see a ford with a chevy engine or vice versa. I am not a ford or chevy purist by any means, and the vehicles owner is free to do whatever they want to their vehicles (me included). I have just never understood the cross brand engine swaps. I would like the truck a lot more if they had went with like a turbo or supercharged mustang engine.
    79 Jeep Cherokee, AMC 401, T-18 manual trans, hydroboost, 16197427 MPFI system---the toy

    93 Jeep YJ Wrangler, 4.0L, 5 speed, 8.8 rear, homebrew hub conversion and big brakes, hydroboost, 2.5in OME lift, 31x10.50's---the daily driver

    99 Jeep WJ Grand Cherokee limited, 4.0L, auto, 2wd, leather and power everything, 99% stock---the long distance highway ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeepsAndGuns View Post
    While I respect the time, money, skill, and hard work put into building that truck. I still have to cringe a little every time I see a ford with a chevy engine or vice versa. I am not a ford or chevy purist by any means, and the vehicles owner is free to do whatever they want to their vehicles (me included). I have just never understood the cross brand engine swaps. I would like the truck a lot more if they had went with like a turbo or supercharged mustang engine.
    For me, it's not because it's a GM in a Ford, it's because it's another damn LSx...

    I think there may now actually be more vehicle with LSx in them than what GM made with LSx engines. Overpriced POS' that people are brainwashed to think are the best thing since the wheel. :facepalm:

    Very clean swap though, and that is something that seems to be difficult on an LSx, it seems, since I see so many that are just thrown into cars and look terrible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeepsAndGuns View Post
    I would like the truck a lot more if they had went with like a turbo or supercharged mustang engine.
    In general, cost and technical support are major considerations in any project. I have to wonder, "what if" Ford, Dodge, and Toyota engines / transmissions were available for about the same price point as the LSx engine / transmissions combinations and supported by EFI Live and other similar software suppliers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Six_Shooter View Post
    Overpriced POS' that people are brainwashed to think are the best thing since the wheel. :facepalm:
    that sums up my feelings on at least one engine that is oh so popular to swap in the FWD world. luckily, they tend to thin their own herd with neverending BBQs.
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    In general, cost and technical support are major considerations in any project. I have to wonder, "what if" Ford, Dodge, and Toyota engines / transmissions were available for about the same price point as the LSx engine / transmissions combinations and supported by EFI Live and other similar software suppliers?
    Which is why the SBC swap was also extremely popular. Building a 350 was at least half as much as almost any other brand, and you could mix and match parts from a gazillion years and models to make a drivetrain.

    I have just never understood the cross brand engine swaps. I would like the truck a lot more if they had went with like a turbo or supercharged mustang engine.
    I used to feel that way but really, is there anything on a new engine that resembles that truck? If you have to weld in mounts, change pulleys and brackets, adapt power steering hoses and cooler lines, does it matter what brand you're adapting from? Or think of it this way... the Chevy LSx engine in the ford isn't as cool, but what abut a Falconer? Or a 4-71? If those engines are cool, then the "not as cool" comes from somewhere else... "Oh, yeah, another LSx Swap"

    BTW, I do very much like how clean the Ford is and it looks like a well executed vehicle all around. Somehow, though, as I get older it seems like an engine compartment should look full. It's probably because I work on vehicles daily where there isn't an extra cubic inch of space around the engine but even my '57 looks empty when I open the hood.




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    i always thought it was hilarious when the hood of my father's 70 monte carlo was open..... if there were ever a GM car that could have justified more than 8 cylinders, that was it.
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    Funny that you mention that car. I had a friend with one and used to dream of building a twin 231 turbo powerplant for it.

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    i imagine the veyron W16 would still have vast amounts of empty space under the hood.

    two six cylinders? could probably still be done with relative ease.
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    I have always kinda been the type that prefers to use or build the original engine, or a engine of the same brand. But if you are going to do a swap, do something original. I once saw pics of a old 70's challenger with a viper V10 swapped in. I thought that was really cool, original idea and still keeping it within the brand.
    My wrangler will forever have the 4.0 straight six. I plan on stroking it, maybe even turbo it. But it will still be the original engine. My cherokee is the only thing I have that there is a tiny chance I might do a engine swap on. If I ever do decide to do it, it would be a cadillac 500. I actually have one (needs rebuilt) in storage just incase I do decide to do it. But for now I am sticking with original AMC power. I rebuilt the 401 several years ago. Put on some ported/polished/shaved heads a few years after that. And most recently did the MPFI and installed some headers.
    I like the idea of the cadillac 500 because its not something you see every day. They can be built for some good power and there is no replacement for displacement.
    The falconer in the vette you posted above is a cool swap. Mainly because its a V12 thats basicly still a chevy engine and the vette is a chevy.
    The 4-71 swap is cool just because its original, not to mention the cool factor of a 2 stroke diesel.
    79 Jeep Cherokee, AMC 401, T-18 manual trans, hydroboost, 16197427 MPFI system---the toy

    93 Jeep YJ Wrangler, 4.0L, 5 speed, 8.8 rear, homebrew hub conversion and big brakes, hydroboost, 2.5in OME lift, 31x10.50's---the daily driver

    99 Jeep WJ Grand Cherokee limited, 4.0L, auto, 2wd, leather and power everything, 99% stock---the long distance highway ride.

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    Maybe I should post these pics in the Product Information area? Littlefuse weather proof mini fuse block PDM31001ZXM. Available at Mouser http://www.mouser.com/Search/Product...76-PDM31001ZXM (about $22.00).

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