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[JeepsAndGuns]

So is kelley blue book values worthless? Or does everyone think everything is worth gold?
So I have seen a few other jeeps on craigslist. They look pretty clean and decent mileage. I look them up on kelley blue book and it always values them at about $500-1000 less than what people are asking for them. I have looked up 3 or 4 now like this. The owners are pretty firm on their prices. One guy for example had it listed at $3500. KBB puts it at $2500. I call and talk to him a bit about it. Good quality pics and it looks clean and has decent miles (140k) I ask about the price and make a offer of 2500 stating the kbb value, but the most he will come down to is 3000. If it was 4wd it might be woth that, but its only 2wd. I just cant see myself paying 3000 for a vehicle thats only worth 2500. Not to mention 2500 is my current budget.

[RobertISaar]

most of the people that have cracked out prices tend to be going off of NADA pricing, which is crazy at times.

[sherlock9c1]

My dad always says "What's something worth? What someone will pay for it."

NADA: By dealers, FOR dealers. As my dealer friend said when I asked about NADA: "So you're going to let a group of CAR DEALERS tell you what you should pay?"

Edmunds is the most realistic IMHO. But no seller wants to hear those numbers. Use them as a bargaining chip.

When people think their stuff is worth a mint, you politely explain your offer, explain why you are the best buyer for their car, leave the offer and your phone number, then you leave, and wait. They will call you. Or you call/text them every two weeks. They will come down. Been there done that. Took awhile. The last three vehicles I bought took me an average of 45 days to negotiate a price, but I ended up with much better than average vehicles at slightly higher than average prices.

Finally, be aware of tax return season. Car prices go nuts during those times; avoid those times if you can, particularly if you're buying in the sub-$5k range.

[1project2many]

Jeep prices are stupid. Period.

http://boston.craigslist.org/bmw/cto/4588468930.html
$3750?? Not emissions compliant, not original, not able to pass inspection, not rust free, and almost 20 yrs old.

http://nh.craigslist.org/cto/4580412663.html
$10k???? WTF????
Here's what $10k should buy...
http://nh.craigslist.org/cto/4586730171.html
Or this:
http://nh.craigslist.org/cto/4574827514.html
Or even this:
http://nh.craigslist.org/cto/4563037285.html

I don't understand why people want a Jeep badly enough that they'll pay $500 - $700 for "nearly rust-free" tubs but that's the market.

OTOH, try selling parts for a Cavalier, or an '80s Mercedes, or a first gen S10. I've got some stuff here I can't hardly give away.
So if you want to put your g/f into a Cavalier on an S10 frame with an OM617 diesel swap, I can supply some parts to help!

[JeepsAndGuns]

That old ford looks pretty nice. I prefer the 78-79 body style myself. My dad had a 78 F250 when I was growing up. Lots of good memories in that truck.
The M175 is nice but its missing the front bumper, brushguard, and those front fenders are not original M715 fenders, they are off a cherokee widetrack or a J10.
The duce and a half is sweet. I have always wanted one, but would never have a use for it or anywhere to park it.

[1project2many]

It's not just the Jeep market. Ever see Training Day? Denzel Washington plays a bad cop that drives a lowered 79 Monte in LA.




I've got a black '79 I built long before that movie came out. It doesn't look like the movie car and I know it. It's got '70s Rally wheels and T-tops and it had the proper stance for an '80s build, not this ridiculous thing today of making cars look like horse drawn wagons. But it's rusty and needs to be replaced. Try buying a '79 Monte now for a reasonable price, though. Every car is worth big money. Every car is like Training Day.

http://cleveland.craigslist.org/cto/4577055557.html
Wrong nose, wrong paint, and obnoxiously wrong wheels.


http://atlanta.craigslist.org/eat/cto/4590973907.html
Again, wrong grille. And needs a ton of work. But it's got a black door, so it's kinda close, right?


https://albuquerque.craigslist.org/cto/4567831915.html
The amount of money & work you'd need to invest in making that a nice car is not small. $2500 should buy more than that imo. At least its the correct year. One guy is selling an '85 "just like training day" and it's not even the same body style. Jeez... what a way to ruin the market for a perfectly good car.

Anyway, good luck with the hunt. I need to spend the day replacing exhaust on the Suburban.

[delcowizzid]

got my hands on an ls1 powered test car today.flashed my first real tune in today got some pretty decient gains over stock might have to spend some coin for some dyno time i think