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Thread: 94 Buick RoadMaster Estate Wagon LT 1 issues

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    Haha that’s cute.

    From what my son said the car is done snd runs so smoothly you can hardly hear it run. He said it didn’t make one revolution to start after all this. I’ll get a few good scans right away for reference. I have to say the EEHACK and the little laptop I got for it have been instrumental in servicing this car.
    I’m going out in the morning to pick it up. I plan on posting som pictures of the junk that was removed and replaced. Hopefully I can get clear enough pictures that others can comment on. I’m really disappointed that the first guy couldn’t fix this car. It appears that the main issue was the water pump leaked and ruined the Opti. Both of these were replaced in the first go around. It’s hard to believe the “new water pump” could immediately fail. The car didn’t run well after these were replaced to begin with. I only drove the car about 1000 miles during this whole process. I’ll post pictures of the “new”Opti and the “new” water pump. Then we’ll look at the plugs and wires that were supposed to be “new” . We are are still trying to find a new pulley with the bearing. I don’t know if we can just remove the bearing. I’ll look tomorrow.none of the local parts stores even have it listed. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

    I want to thank every one for all the helpful information given here.
    Byron

    here is the inside of the Opticap we removed. Not cleaned or touched.
    im having trouble with pictures so I’ll wait until later.id just like observations...t see if I agree.’ll comment later.
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    Bentwings,

    It is nice that in the end it is all good. It was a good diagnostics workshop for all of us.

    I remember that you mentioned the PCM was changed at some point.

    Steveo the creator of EEhack needs a test PCM to develop more features to the already awsome program. If you still have that spare PCM can you borrow it to him.

    Thanks

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    If it is a metal pulley, you can drive out the old bearing to replace it. You will have to read the number off the bearing itself, and type it directly into google for results. I can't remember the number, (6502 or 6205, etc) but it is a common bearing used for nearly all GM pulleys for many years. I had bought a dozen of them in case I had supply issues, but they are at the shop, and this is the weekend.

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    I picked the Buick up today and drove about 100 miles. I purrs like a kitten. When itís running you can barely feel it neutral idle is about 700 in gear about 650.

    Iíll post a couple pictures I took today. Iíd like comments. The car has 117 k on it Iíve driven it about 1000 miles during this ordeal mostly travel to and from the original shop.
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    Well here is another tidbit.
    A friend of my son has a hotrod caprice sedan. He is also a GM MECHANIC, TECHNISION.


    He came by to see how things were going. He picked up a couple spark plugs that we took out and looked at them. He says ď the guy didnít even put new plugs inĒ. Look at the ends these have a little dimple in the center. These only come on OEM GM CarsCARS from the factory..You canít buy the dimple plugs only ones that are flat on the ends. We didnít know this so Iím going to go over to the local Buick GMC dealer and ask ther, not to dispute but to verify. I suspect something to do with warrantee. I have pictures but I canít get them into ďpicturesĒ from messages on my phone.

    This story just keeps going on and on.

    Byron
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    Interesting. We always looked for a dot of paint on the OE plugs. Nothing aftermarket came with a paint dot.

    https://www.silveradosierra.com/vort....html#p2334498

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    I usually look at the other end of the plug to determine its worthiness. If there is erosion, (within 1k miles) then it was never new.

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    I under stand the business end of the plugs.

    This car had OEM plugs in it when I originally brought the car to the guy. He determined that it was time for new plugs and I was charged for them. However it looks like these are the original plugs. Cleaned and stuck back in.I’m still investigating the validity or the statement about the dimple identifier.

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    One more small issue has come up.

    When coming to a stop brakes on the motor or car “chugs intermittently. More of a jerk against the brakes.Not all the time however. Mostly when warm. Although it was -12 deg f and I did it then too. It’s like a single cyl misfire. So far no codes no check engine light.
    It’s not a constant miss just intermittently when stopped with the brakes on. It seems to go away as some as brakes are released. Does not make any difference how hard brakes ar on. I also tested as very low speed and gently pressed the brakes. I couldn’t feel it or hear it. So I’m not sure if it’s just something caused by brake actuation or something else.

    Possibly something going on with idle air control.from the looks of it this was not serviced by the first guy.although he must have removed it when swapping intakes.. the Opti is completely sealed and new vacuum lines installed. Brand new water pump. No leaks.new plug wires and plugs.it may be the AC compressor cycling but it’s very quick what ever it is. Possible momentary converter locking and unlocking.if you listen very carefully you can hear or slightly feel the down shifts when coming to a stop. Doesn’t seem be associated with these. To me it seams something associated with brake activation.

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    We need to know what the IAC count is on a warmed up engine in Park and then in Drive. Should be 18-23 idling in Park, and about 24-30 in Drive, no climate controls turned on.

    Then we can go on to see what condition the transmission fluid is in. Red with clutch dust, brown with clutch dust, black and burned? The smell of the fluid is important. If the IAC counts are nominal, then I wonder about the TCC solenoid sticking a bit. I have had to drive cars for about 20-30min above 50mph on the highway for this type of symptom to show up. Sometimes it is bad enough to stop the motor once, only to let the car restart with no idling syptoms. Clutch dust in the fluid usually is the cause....fluid change and filter will solve the sticking solenoid issue. It feels like someone driving a stick shift forgetting to disengage the clutch while hitting the brakes and killing the engine as a result. You symptom is milder, I think. Near-stall.

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    With great sadness I have to make this post.

    First I want to thank everyone that contributed to helping fix this car. Ultimately I was fixed by going over every part using EEHACK and everyone’s suggestions. Each area of the EFI was examined and repaired or replaced. Untill the care ran perfectly. The last tank of gas got 23 mpg. Town and country driving it started in -15 deg weather like it was 70 degrees. It idled so we’ll it was hard to tell it was running. There was no smelly exhaust, no leaks anywhere no noises,nothing. All systems worked just like a new car. I give my son and grand son the credit for doing all the mechanical work on the car. Thinks that didn’t work properly were examined and problems found then fixed with a fix it correctly the first time not several times. The best parts available were used. Essentially the entire EFI system was gone over. So the car ran perfectly. Now the sad part . Over the last few years a number of my car friends have passed away from various things. I began thinking of my own situation after my first trip to the hospital where a new hole was drilled in my head and blood was drained out as a result of a fall. The doctors talked of stroke and said no more sports ,not even tiddlywinks. I can’t have another head injury. This led to stroke discussion. What they are, symptoms, causes and ultimately my medical position and condition. I’m actually in pretty good shap not smoking drinking or other bad stuff. However the possibility of stroke or blood clots. Do I m on blood thinners. Amounts checked weekly. As I began realizing I’m not bullet proof anymore the possibility of stroke while driving began to be my worst nightmare. Well sadly that’s exactly what happened. There was no warning. I simply lost vision for a couple seconds andBAM I hit another car. And a road object. I never saw it. I ended up in the ditch and totaled the car. It didn’t look bad at first but the frame was bent in a very bad place and deemed not safely repairable.we even found a parts car so all the damaged sheet metal could have been fixed. I’ve not had a single thing like it since. I have to be thankful neither me or my dog were injured but nobody else in the ither vehicle was hurt. It could have been very much worst. I was only going about 40 on a back road.

    So the bottom line I want to pass on is be safe on the roads. I suspect this happens more than many realize. Even my doctors said the same thing. A stroke does not have to be a paralyzing painfull thing. Something as insidiously simple like blocked vision for a few seconds is all it takes. I had numerous scans that just did not foretell this. Well now I’m prevented from driving at all. Serious fall risk. Can’t work or very limited. Probably a hazard riding an exercise. Bike. Heaven forbid operating anything with wheels. Mobility is limited to walking with my service dog only. Then letting someone know where I’m going. All this almost overnight. Mentally it’s frustrating beyond belief. I’m probably going to be forbidden from going to funny car races that I like. I’ve been through two weeks of mental and physical therapy just to sooth my frustrations I guess. Just keep in mind these things can happen as you get older. No need for sympathy just everone be safe and enjoy your activities while you can. The enjoyment of all of you during this mess has been wonderful. I don’t mind a single debate or criticism. ,it’s all a learning process. I learned so much here that it amazes me that y’ll can be so much fun.

    Thanks again for the help and enjoyment of a great bunch of guys.

    Byron Nelson.

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    Hi Bryan,

    You're lucky and you realize it. This is a good thing. I work in a business where I frequently see people who believe that they are as bulletproof as they feel, even with existing medical conditions. It's scary. But the brain is not going to operate properly without enough oxygen, without enough blood flow. And a brain that doesn't operate properly or consistently should not be driving. I am amazed at the number of people who won't trust a highly programmed, fully functional computer to drive the car they're in, yet they trust themselves despite knowing "bad things" can happen. We humans are truly a strange species.

    Hopefully you get to go to races, maybe take in a car show or two. You stayed with your car long after most folks would give up and I hope you find a way to continue to enjoy the hobby.

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    really sorry to hear all of this. i've witnessed from your struggles that you probably have the perseverance to learn to live well despite your newfound challenges. best of luck to you.

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    Wow. Sorry to hear all that bad luck happened all at once. It definitely could have been much worse, for sure. Now, my evil plan to have you drive through the shyster mechanic's building, feigning the same symptoms, has been foiled also. We'll have to settle for a drive-by-fruiting, instead. Use an eggplant, though. But the real question is.....is an eggplant a fruit or a vegetable? Figure the best weapon is humor these days.

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    Bryan, it's a miracle you're even able to get on and type this. Never regret your journey, and the value of suffering. Thank you for coming back and posting. I commend you for your tenacity!

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