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Thread: 1994 F body pcm for 1996 Y body obd II to obd I conversion?

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    1994 F body pcm for 1996 Y body obd II to obd I conversion?

    Ok so I have an oddball pcm in my car. The 1996 corvette came with full OBD II and not many people tune them. I have access to a 1994 fbody pcm I can install a 3.9k resister on and attempt the conversion of the pcm can made to work. It is from an Lt1 A4 just like my corvette.My corvette is mostly stock for the time being but needs to have egr deleted and the fuel touched up for the larger tb. Theta when I realized the difficulty of tuning any 96-97 lt1 car. The being stock will change and sending it out for retuning every time I change something just seems to be something Id like to try and avoid if possible. Any I put would be greatly appreciated.

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    I’m mostly concerned about the trans. I would be Flashing in a 1995 bin with traction control.
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    This is the info on the 95 to 96 4l60 I found I’m wondering if I were to do the conversion is I would be able to change the transmission control files to accept the 96 trans.


    1995: Stand alone year! Will not interchange with any other year. This is a PWM transmission. An extra solenoid was added to the valve body to control the pulsed lock up strategy of the conerter clutch. It has a 12 pin case connector, extra wire in the transmission to computer harness and different computer to control the new PWM circuit. Has PWM cast in front pump. Front pump internal passages different to match new TCC strategy. 2 piece TCC control valve in valve body. Has holes in plate, marked in diagram below. 1st design 3-2 valve. 12 pin case connector. '94 computer won't recognise new TCC strategy., and will burn lock-up clutch and 3-4 clutches up. '96 computer isn't compatible with '96 3-2 control solenoid.

    1996: The 3-2 downshift strategy was changed to an on /off arrangement. The TCC control solenoid was changed to a 20-31 OHM solenoid, from the previous 10-15 OHM solenoid. The 3-2 control valve was changed to the second design valve. The easiest way to identify the valve is, the second design valve will fall out as soon as the solenoid is removed. The first design has a plug and retaining clip. TCC solenoid remains 10-15 OHMs, which is the same as the '95 arrangement. Has PWM stamped cast in pump. pump is the same as '95. Will not interchange with '95 unless changing 3-2 solenoid, valvebody casting, and seperator plate. Has holes in plate marked in diagram. '94 or '95 computer will not accept the 20-31 OHM 3-2 solenoid and will throw an SES light and throw the transmission into limp mode. Some less knowledgeable builders will swap the solenoid so the computer will see the correct resistance, but the valve itself then causes downshift issues. If only the solenoid is changed, it will result in a 3-2 downshift cut loose. In other words...3-neutral-2 downshift. Speedo moved to passenger side of tail housing, but easily changed.




    This is off impalaSSforum.com, I was using it to get my information, but you can never be too sure. I don't want to risk any damage.

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    You can use the 96 tranny with a 95 bin if you use the 3-2 solenoid, valve body, and separator plate from a 95 tranny.

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    Ok so as it stands now that’s my main option for the moment if I want to complete the swap. I was hoping that someone had maybe found a way to tune the issue away but if it’s my only option that’s just how it goes.

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    I've been driving a car with a swapped 96 LT1/4L60e running a 95 bin flashed 8051 PCM for years now. No issues with the codes or limp mode and it downshifts just fine.

    The PCM and harness came from a 94, so I added the PWM solenoid wire and re-flashed to a 95 bin.

    I still have the PCM from the 96 and a home built VATS bypass. It works and can run the engine, but I've never tuned it so it's not setup right for the rear gears or tire size or engine mods.

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    That is good to hear that I worked for you. It’s just from my understanding if you just swap the solenoid that valve itself is different, that It would eventually over time burn up the converter and some of the clutches.I’m going to do the resister mod on the pcm for the knock sensors and see if I dont brick the pcm flashing it. If it goes well then I plan on just spending the 250 on the 95 upgraded valvebody,plate and solenoids from sonnax and be done with it if I can’t change the pcm peramiters to accept the newer solenoid.

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    Also lionelhuts, what year pwm solenoid did you use in the 96 trans?

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    I currently have a 96 Roadmaster with a 95 pcm with an auto. I did not do anything to modify the trans except install a stall converter or harness. I did however solder in the resistors on the board for the knock sensors. Seems to be working fine with the trans so far but dont have a ton of miles. It shifts fine so far and no burned fluid yet.

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    Hey azxj. How many miles you have it so far? How is the wot 1st to 2nd shift?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lockdun1 View Post
    Hey azxj. How many miles you have it so far? How is the wot 1st to 2nd shift?
    Maybe 20 miles haha, I have just been driving it around my neighborhood. Its just going to be a track car unless something changes. I have no desire to drive it here without a/c except in the winter so maybe ill get a temp tag for then or something. It has shifted great on every shift even when on the bottle the few times it has been. I built and installed a 383 thats quite a bit more powerful and still shifts smooth but havent hit the bottle yet. Should have it out at the track in two weeks.

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    That’s bad ass I’m just debating on what I should be doing with the set up I want to be able to tune it myself and learn the right way instead of just oaying someone. What is your software set up? And what cable did you end up using?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lockdun1 View Post
    Also lionelhuts, what year pwm solenoid did you use in the 96 trans?
    It's all stock 96. As far as I know, it's never been opened. Came out of a burnt Z28 with fairly low miles. I've put about 10k on it myself.

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    I am using eehack for datalogging and flashing and using tunerpro to edit the bin files. I purchased my cable from aldlcable.com

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    Sweet I got my 051 pcm for free and did the resistor mod today for the knock sensors. I started with a 95 ybody bin the copy pasted timing/ fuel tables from the tune I got from from stevos tool on fbodytech, deleted vats/egr/air and made sure the vette maf cal was patched in. Should be ready to go when my aldl gets here.
    Ok that’s very good to here that both of you seem to have had good look with the trans working fine. I hope mine does to.
    I’m trying to decide what I want to use to flash with I hear eehack can be hit or miss with bricking but it does have that silence Orion for the y body. I can just get get cats it’s no issue. What do you guys think?

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