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    BLMs say rich, but WBO2 and NBO2 and surging all say lean - what gives?

    8063 ECU, $4D

    350, ported 882 heads, 256/262 cam, Holley TBI, GM Injector pod, 18psi, headers, all in a Pontiac Firefly (CDN market Chevy Sprint)

    EGR deleted and disabled

    TCC disabled (TH350)

    AIR disabled

    DFCO currectly disabled

    Can anyone see anything in my settings that I'm missing?
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    I do not have experience tuning $4D using a WBO2.

    I've tuned several $OD, $OE, $31, & $E6 vehicles using a WBO2. It's not uncommon to see WBO2 averages and BLM average contradict each other. I favor the WBO2 data vs. the BLM data.

    I like that $OD, $OE, $31, & $E6 vehicles have near idle and off idle tables, it's like getting the best of both worlds, near idle table for a smooth idle and off idle tables for good drivability and performance.

    It might be a good plan to upgrade from $4D to one of the following; $OD, or $OE, or $31, or $E6?

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    Would the quick-and-dirty-button just be map it according to the WBO2, and tighten the BLM range so it doesn't pull too much fuel out?

    I had a thought that maybe high IAT might want to take fuel out, but still - wouldn't still try to hit 14.7? Intake air is a tick warm, 45°C recently. Open filter because there is no room under the hood of this car.

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    Maybe Open Loop Only, "tuned" by WBO2 would be the quick-and-dirty-button?

    Usually setting minimum temperature for closed loop to 151 Celsius will keep the ECM in open loop.

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    Odd. I thought I attached one. Now attached.

    The $4D is a pretty spartan computer by comparison.
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