Nearly Perfect 128 BLM's - By CHEATING!

[dave w]

Ok,
The phrase goes like this, criticize in private / praise in public.

I just can't keep quiet about what someone (who shall remain anonymous) did to a chip for a someone that actually paid $$$ for this low down good for nothing kind of work.

Just set the BLM's parameters to 128, and you too can have nearly perfect BLM's of 128, see attached screen shots.

If you don't do your homework, you too might get CHEATED out of your $$$ Too!

The phrase, If you want something done right, do it yourself???

dave w

[steveo]

is it perhaps.....BRIAN HARRIS FROM TBICHIPS.COM?

don't be afraid, what is he going to do, sue you on the internets? unleash the striesand effect
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect)

he's the only one i've seen write closed loop open loop tunes like that.

now, lets back up a minute, what if he's actually tuning open loop and just going about it a different way?

i really appreciate a good open loop tune...

why don't you widen that BLM threshold back up, and show us a log so we can see how close his VE tables are?

if they're on the mark, there's no need for any sort of block learn mode. i mean that with all seriousness.

[Fast355]

^^^AGREED....I have seen the same thing in a Brian Harris chip. Atleast in his older ways, he set the min/max to a window of 10, LOL. So Minimum of 123 and Maximium of 132.

His VE tables will not even be close and I am sure it runs horrible.

There are a couple of equally garbage LS tuners in my area too. One that I have seen his work so many times that I can tell it just looking at the tune and have named the tuner numerous times to people I am working on their car/truck. They always ask, How did you guess that? Like PE multiplier set to 1.40 and timing at 32* on a stock LS1 F-car HORRIBLE! One of his tunes on a naturally aspirated cammed LY6 6.0L smoked a 4L80E "built for 1,000 hp" in 4,000 street miles.

[dave w]

I'm not saying who did the chip.

It never occurred to me that maybe this was an open loop tune. Typically open loop tuning is done with a WBO2, that's how I tune for open loop. There is no WBO2 data in the attached .xdl.

The engine is basically a L31 with TBI.

The common pitfall that I think happens, it boils down to a lack of TunerPro RT skills on both parties (tuner and vehicle owner)

I think it's a very valid statement ... the more you know about EFI the better you will GOOOOOOOOOO with EFI.

dave w

[Six_Shooter]

Nope, not an open loop tune, that's not how you'd do it anyways...

This has been known for some time that there is a particular "tooner" that does this.

I just don't understand how people can do this and sleep at night. I prefer sitting my ass in the car being tuned, that way I can make sure the tune is right for THAT vehicle, I hate cheating.

[dave w]

Nope, not an open loop tune, that's not how you'd do it anyways...

This has been known for some time that there is a particular "tooner" that does this.

I just don't understand how people can do this and sleep at night. I prefer sitting my ass in the car being tuned, that way I can make sure the tune is right for THAT vehicle, I hate cheating.

This type of Cheating is likely NOT limited to ONE Particular "tooner". The " Cheater Cancer" is spreading.

I'd like to think my remote tuning is good, sometimes it's really good, but I'm not perfect. I openly share the tuning analysis with the vehicle owner, sometimes the vehicle owner will actually understand the analysis.

dave w