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    Quote Originally Posted by 57 Handyman View Post
    I ask this question...
    After re-reading this post, I realized I forgot to state a separate question which was different from the one about PCM preferences. Is it really necessary to make/use an ECM-to-PCM adapter since most computers have a built-in limp home mode?

    Dave W, do you think it could be related to the processing speeds since both '7427 and '8625 run 50xs faster than the '7747? Are there any design differences in these 8192-baud PCMs, i.e., early vs later usage/deployment by GM? Lastly, in switching between '7427 and '8625, what kinds of changes regarding the bin/adx/xdf were required?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 57 Handyman View Post
    After re-reading this post, I realized I forgot to state a separate question which was different from the one about PCM preferences. Is it really necessary to make/use an ECM-to-PCM adapter since most computers have a built-in limp home mode?
    I've done several '7427 without an adapter. A couple advantages to an adapter plug: simple easy installation and no wiring / schematic skills required.

    Quote Originally Posted by 57 Handyman View Post
    Dave W, do you think it could be related to the processing speeds since both '7427 and '8625 run 50xs faster than the '7747? Are there any design differences in these 8192-baud PCMs, i.e., early vs later usage/deployment by GM? Lastly, in switching between '7427 and '8625, what kinds of changes regarding the bin/adx/xdf were required?
    I don't have access to the PCM circuit board schematics, circuit trace layout, or the build sheet of components to accurately know what is different between the '8625 and '7427. Likely only the GM Engineers know the "REAL" differences. What I've noticed is the '7427 is used for both the 4L60E and 4L80E. The '8625 is 1993 with 4L60E. $OD & $E6 are for 4L60E. $31 and $OE are for 4L80E. I've successfully used the '7427 with $OD, $E6, $OE, and $31.

    If it's the '7427 I'll use it, if it's not the '7427, I WON'T use it.

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    Ah...so, I guess Dave's PCM of choice is '7427

    Dave, you list bins for '7427 with 4L60E and 4L80E but which bin/adx/xdf would you start/use with a 700r4.

    Also, I now see why wiring pin outs (attributed to you) indicate "NOT used on 87 GMC w/454"... Thanks

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    Whilst it may not be the exact thread that I extracted the parameters from to make a '8625 control a 700r4, this thread has the pertinent information: http://www.gearhead-efi.com/Fuel-Inj...27-and-a-700R4

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    Domo Arigato, Stew...I need to give this a shot and learn how to do this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 57 Handyman View Post
    Dave, you list bins for '7427 with 4L60E and 4L80E but which bin/adx/xdf would you start/use with a 700r4.
    A modified $OD .bin / .xdf / .adx works well for a 700R4. http://www.gearhead-efi.com/Fuel-Inj...Information-0D

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    Quote Originally Posted by dave w View Post
    A modified $OD .bin / .xdf / .adx works well for a 700R4. http://www.gearhead-efi.com/Fuel-Inj...Information-0D

    dave w
    Before I knew any better, I suppose $0D .bin w^^^700r4 mods could be used in a '8625 w less a$$ pain! I went on the premise of "run what you brung" so leaned on modifying the $E6 for 700r4. The screenshots dave w provided in the link I posted ^^^as an fyi I ended up changing 32 parameters in tp locating them with ctrl+f any search term I could think of related to 700, tcc etc. Used compare tool to see what if anything was changed and copied into second tp session w $6E opened. Don't forget Efan control was also added to your $6E, too.
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    Hiya folks, using the search I just found this thread. I am working on a 94 bbc suburban with a 502, still tbi. The first issue was the 02 voltage toggling between ~450 mv to over 1 volt with just the key on. I grabbed a spare red/blue (6395) assuming they are all the same but maybe not, o2 toggling was gone so at least it is not in the wiring. I haven't driven it yet to see if it will control the 4l80e but I was having some weird issues with the electronic IAC so it dawned on me to research a little.
    After reading Dave's post I will hunt down a 7427 and try next week when I am back to work and post what I find.

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    I have 94 burb bb 454, aluminum intake unheated, upped fuel pressure, ported heads, headers and .500 lift cam. It came with 6395 and that is what I use but have swapped 7427 in and no difference. I did a lot of tuning in the beginning but haven’t burnt a chip in two years. It is a daily driver and runs great. I run in open loop with auto iat correction.
    6395, BHDF, 7.4 BBC lightly modded now 6395 BMHM back to BHDF

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