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    Did you ever consider PWM control and remove the thermostat? By remove, I mean disable it in the full open position or modify the pump to do the equivalent.

    Then, you'd cool more than just down to the thermostat closing temperature by running the pump with the engine off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lionelhutz View Post
    Did you ever consider PWM control and remove the thermostat? By remove, I mean disable it in the full open position or modify the pump to do the equivalent.

    Then, you'd cool more than just down to the thermostat closing temperature by running the pump with the engine off.
    I didn't think about it. Removing the thermostat is not a good idea, as the heat-up using the main circulation (through the radiator) would take much longer. The heater would also be less effective without it.
    The PWM control might be useful to shorten the warm-up time, and maybe to free up a fraction of horsepower lowering PWM at WOT momentarily, but not much more. The pump in the car I'm working on consumes only around 7 amps, so almost nothing for the alternator.

    The modern cars have thermostats with electric heater integrated in the viscous fluid to vary the opening and closing temperatures some. Anyway, why would you want to cool the car to temperatures lower than thermostat temp?

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    The idea is that the PWM runs the pump slow during warm up. Decently implemented, a PWM pump and PWM fan will maintain a fairly constant engine temperature. Some OEM's are doing PWM instead of letting the thermostat regulate the engine temps. They probably build the system to have flow to the heater core first though using some other method.

    You don't want to keep cooling your engine to thermostat temperature or even below it when it's OFF?

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    If anyone else would want to use this patch, here is XDF with the code patch so it can be applied easily.
    Code is tested in car and all works fine, so enjoy ;)
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    I would like to add this to my PCM. Too many close calls with just a toggle switch...

    Is there a tutorial or guide of how to add a patch to a XDF ? I see in Tunerpro there is a 'Control + N' which allows me to create a new XDF Object with an option of a patch.

    Then what?
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    Quote Originally Posted by el Jefe View Post
    I would like to add this to my PCM. Too many close calls with just a toggle switch...

    Is there a tutorial or guide of how to add a patch to a XDF ? I see in Tunerpro there is a 'Control + N' which allows me to create a new XDF Object with an option of a patch.

    Then what?
    You don't need to do any of that; you can just use the XDF that dzidaV8 posted without any changes.

    If you have some other XDF you really prefer to use and want the water pump patch he provided, then just open dzidaV8's XDF in a text editor, find the sections relating to that patch, then copy and paste them into the appropriate place in your favorite XDF. I wouldn't even bother using TunerPro to do that; I'd just use Notepad++.
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    Thanks for the reply NomakeWan.

    Maybe I am making this too hard for myself. I have been working with $EE-16188051-V3.xdf from here. Before I posted my question above I had already opened the file provided by dzvidaV8 in post #12 in windows Notepad. The file appears to follow a programming routine similar to C++ and is fairly small.

    Based on your advice I opened $EE-16188051-V3.xdf in Notepad and found the file much larger and gibberish, which I suspect is Notepad translating binary to ascii text. I don't think what was posted by dzvidaV8 is a complete XDF file.

    Then I loaded the XDF from dzvidaV8 into TunerPro and it literally has only 1 Scalar and 1 Patch, both relating to driving an EWP off of pin B9.

    To me this logically means I must somehow "import" the contents of dzvidaV8's subroutine into $EE-16188051-V3.xdf.

    I am sure this is something simple I am missing and again, thanks for the help.

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