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    Best BIN for runing 258/4.2 AMC/Jeep engine 5 speed manual

    I'm working on an old AMC Eagle with a 258 L6 and a T5 5-speed as far as I know the engine is currently bone stock. I picked up a wiring harnes to trim down & a 4.3 S10 V6 throttle body then cleaned it out, I'm just looking for a .BIN file that will let me get it running reasonably well for the time being. I'l likely pickup an AutoPro & tune it further later.

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    What ECM/PCM are you using? Then we can look for bin options...

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    Oh, got a few of them sitting here, was allowed to get a small box for minimal price, have on hand 2 x 1227747's(1 may have been V8,chip change should fix that though right? The other is def. 4.3 V6), 2 x 1228062(4.3's but autos) and for possibly later, 16197427 & 16168625(I do realize that those will require re-wiring or adapter)

    I should also note that I also have another Eagle with a TF998 3 speed NON-electronic(obviously based on the age) auto trans that I may do first as it doesn't need to pass inspection/sniffer for a year(just got it done with an old motorcraft 2150 carb & a GM large cap EFI)

    I also have 2 freshly cleaned & re-built TBI's from 4.3's an Astro & a S10 sitting here plus a couple sets of 5.7 injectors in case I need to go up a size.

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    The 8062 we have everything needed here:
    http://www.gearhead-efi.com/Fuel-Inj...Information-4E

    For the 7747 here:
    http://www.gearhead-efi.com/Fuel-Inj...Information-42

    But most everyone here will try to get you to go with the 16197427 and 16168625 because they are faster PCM and have lots more tuning options. Although for a stock 258 you don't need them...

    For chips you can look them up here:
    http://www.gearhead-efi.com/BCCFind/

    And reverse search for chip by RPO code or ECM number here (still testing the reverse search and 1project2many is looking for people to use and give feedback):
    http://www.gearhead-efi.com/BCCFind/...shtml?BCC=ZZZZ

    You can read about the BCC Find project here:
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    If your wanting a manual trans cal just to get you by untill you can tune. Then I have a 127747 chip/bin thats from a astro van that had a 4.3 and a 5 speed. The bcc is ABFB.
    If your harness is a 7747 harness, and you have a couple laying around to use, that might be the quickest and cheapest way to get a ok running engine. If you want I can email you the bin.
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    I've been to all those links, probably a few times(or more :)) from the bins listed as avail for the 8062 there isn't one for a 4.3 & Manual, does that mean it can't/shouldn't be done, or can I make a combination of the 2.8 Manual & 4.3 auto ones to use with a 5 speed, is there any significant difference to bias one toward the 8062 or the 7747. Yes I get that the 16XXXXXX is a faster unit, and I may get to that , but one step at a time here... I was just about to order the G2 adapter to be able to use an EEPROM.

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    That is exactly what I'm after, yes please. I have an in with a local pick & pull(friend used to own it, his ex still manages it), but I can't seem to come across an ECU in the right configuration...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeepsAndGuns View Post
    If your wanting a manual trans cal just to get you by untill you can tune. Then I have a 127747 chip/bin thats from a astro van that had a 4.3 and a 5 speed. The bcc is ABFB.
    If your harness is a 7747 harness, and you have a couple laying around to use, that might be the quickest and cheapest way to get a ok running engine. If you want I can email you the bin.
    Harness is a bit of a question mark still, I'm going to have to verify it, but the 8062 & 7747 are supposed to be either the same harness or very close. I don't know for sure what ECU it originally had plugged into it, it was an Ebay thing, but again it should be close as it was a 1989 S10 with 4.3 V6 for the price it wasn't worth my time to pull it vs buy it already pulled, so far on initial inspection it looks to be in decent shape.

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    We've got more bins then anywhere on on the net, here's a major dump of files in no particualr order. That's where the BCC find comes in handy.

    Look in bin folder!
    http://www.gearhead-efi.com/gearhead-efi/

    If you can't figure it out we'll give you a hand. But having a good starter bin is not going to be an issue.

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    Ouch my head hurts!!!

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    Get a good nights sleep you'll be fine!

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    Yeah, just semi sarcastic, alot to try to get my head around. One question that I can't seem to understand though is what's with the different XDF files for a given ECU, how does that work if the XDF is a definition of what the data at different offsets in the prom do then how can there be different definitions?!? Also along the same lines how does one know which to use?

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    Quote Originally Posted by doc65 View Post
    Yeah, just semi sarcastic, alot to try to get my head around. One question that I can't seem to understand though is what's with the different XDF files for a given ECU, how does that work if the XDF is a definition of what the data at different offsets in the prom do then how can there be different definitions?!? Also along the same lines how does one know which to use?
    The TunerPro site http://www.tunerpro.net/downloadBinDefs.htm shows which .XDF file to use by ECM number. The .XDF is for editing the .bin file. The Datastream Definitions (.ads / .adx) are for data logging.

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    Dave got you going! I thought you were up to speed there, it's not hard ... yet...

    Here's a tutorial for XDF, ADX, Bin and XDL which is a data log file you get with the ADX file.
    http://www.gearhead-efi.com/Fuel-Inj...is-a-must-read

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    Quote Originally Posted by EagleMark View Post
    Dave got you going! I thought you were up to speed there, it's not hard ... yet...

    Here's a tutorial for XDF, ADX, Bin and XDL which is a data log file you get with the ADX file.
    http://www.gearhead-efi.com/Fuel-Injection/showthread.php?466-TunerPro-starter-Tutorial!-New-users-this-is-a-must-read
    Nice work Mark!

    Here is a thread I did somewhere else http://coloradok5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=275801, it's almost a mouse click by mouse click tutorial for the TunerPro beginner.

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