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    Have you seen the new MTX from inovate? I saw them for $150ish... don't know if you could hook up the output to yout tunerview though?

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    Yeah, looking to stay away from Innovate anymore...

    I don't know about that MTX set-up, but everything else of theirs needs a serial connection, I don't have any luck with serial to USB converters, and the 14point7 stuff is native USB. ;)

    The Tuner View is connected to my ALDL port, so it displays what is spit out from the ECM. I have the LC-1 feeding my ECM.

    --==EDIT==--

    I just looked and the MTX gauge from Innovate still uses serial connections.

    Is this 1998, or 2012?
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    Other than my LC-1 working well with USB adapter I'd never do it again... it's like one end, you need a gauge, then have to build the middle harness cause nothing is long enough... but the MTX seems to have that covered. Right price for gauge, controller and wide band.

    But your right, why would they go through the effort to make a nice package and still leave a serial connection? Only laptop I know of that still has a serial port is the Panisonic ToughBook but who can afford one? New Windows 7 starts at $2500 to $3500?

    I got lucky with my USB to serial converter years ago, but many do not work? Moates has one that works with our stuff, I think Inovate does too?

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    the MTX still uses a serial cable.
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    i find nothing wrong with serial communications, assuming you don't need some speed that COM ports can't achieve.
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    The only flaw in serial comunacations is laptops don't have serial ports anymore!

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    Quote Originally Posted by EagleMark View Post
    The only flaw in serial comunacations is laptops don't have serial ports anymore!
    ^^^^THIS x 11tybillion!!!one!!!!!onetyone!!one!!!!!!onehundre dandonetyone!!!!!!!!!!

    I have had little to no luck with serial to USB converters. I have two, and neither will allow my laptop to communicate with my LC1, where as at least one had previously.

    To buy a known "working" serial to USB converter will be at $33 + shipping ($33 MSRP for the Innovate and $37 for the Moates), on top of the Wideband gauge and sensor, so that's $232, plus shipping. and I still only have a(n ugly) gauge and a sensor, yes it has an output that can be used with my ECM, as I would with any WBO2 system, with no additional logging capabilities, without adding ANOTHER Innovate part (aux box).

    OR

    I can get the SLC_DIY2, that has WBO2 capability, built in display (I'm torn on the looks), up to 12 additional inputs, with ability to display certain inputs on the display, native USB, and I can pick it up from the guys house, like I did with my DIY(1). :D

    If I really wanted to go all out, I could get the SLC_Pure Plus 2, that adds onboard datalogging storage. ;)

    I'm done with Innovate products. The Innovate products I have had, have worked great, and are quite reliable, I just don't want to deal with this serial crap. It is 2012...
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