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    Aksl,

    Please understand that TC is an editor and flash utility only. It has no scanning or 2-way control capability at all, so it can
    not do a crank relearn and can not provide you with any datalogging. You will want to make sure that you have some other
    way to log data in order to be able to tune your project.

    -Scott

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    Hello Scott,

    Thank you for precaution, well, i think i can get way cheapper scanner than EFILive cable, plus i figured out, that if i need a scanner, for crank relearn procedure, it is just one time need procedure to make, i can pay the nearest service center for diagnostic service to be made.
    What do you mean by 2-way control capability?
    As well i wonder, since you and #Hog use TC, what do you use for scanning, crank relearn, and 2-way control capability (watever that means)...?

    Thank you in advance!

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    The 411 PCM (along with many others as well) support commands from the scantool to the PCM. A crank relearn
    is an example of one of these commands (also sometimes called 2-way controls). Others that are supported by
    EFILive and HPTuners include:

    Turning on and off cooling fans, check engine light, ignition coils and injectors
    Commanding the engine to a fixed idle speed or IAC position
    Commanding the engine to a fixed spark advance or air fuel ratio
    Commanding the transmission to a specific gear or line pressure
    Locking and unlocking the torque converter

    These controls can be very helpful when tuning and troubleshooting a new setup.
    I use HPTuners for this capability, as well as for my primary scantool.

    -Scott

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    Thank you very much for sharing Scott, well i have a friend that has the Tech2 scan tool, he bought it through Aliexpress, he uses that scan, and i used to borow it of him, before i started this project. I think it can do all that, plus to all, the cost of it was something like 120$.

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    2 way controls are better known as Bi-Directional control. Since the engine, trans and Antilock Braking System(ABS) are controlled by the same controller, its called a VCM(Vehicle Control Module). As such if you have a Scan Tool, such as your friends Tech 2, you can do work on your brake system, then use the scan tool to activate the ABS motor in order to clear it of air.
    You can activate any electric or aux fans to ensure they are wired correctly
    You can engage and lock an electric trans in any gear you wish, as well as toggle the TCC(torque Converter Clutch)

    And perform a CASE relearn (CASE=Crankshaft Angle Sensor Error) CASE relearns allow the VCM to accurately detect misfires after a new engine, different crank, new crank reluctor are installed into the truck.

    Is there no way to tune with EFILive without buying the V9? I thought you could use a V7 or something like that and only need the V9 for the ability to flash a PCM?

    Are you sure that they weren't asking for the number of your Roadrunner so that you could apply the EFILive/Roadrunner license?

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    Hello Hog,

    Yes I`m positive about that, aswell on the official EFILive website of the RoadRunner Realtime License, you have two rows to fill in, marked with a star *, meaning that must fill in, where one is *FlashScan Serial Number and the second one is *RoadRunner Serial Number. so if i just fill in Roadrunner serial number, the EFILive asks me to fill in the *FlashScan Serial Number, which i don`t have. So i thought ok, may be buying through moates.net, i can escape that,but NO.(((
    correspondence with moates about EFILive order.jpg
    EFILive attemp to buy.PNG

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    Ok guys, if you can help me now, i have got to start my swap soon, and want to get ready for it! In order to do that, i would like to make a step by step instructions on what i will have to do. Now i have on hands a 4L60E transmission, that if i install before the swap, will not work, since in my blackbox i have a tune for a manual transmission, since i have a 700R4 installed. and i have my 0411 PCM with Roadrunner, to make the PCM swap, and TunnerCat RT soft license and software, but when i just try to start it, it gives me an error unable to locate any Diffinition files (i guess it needs the Roadrunner connected via usb cable to work). And i have downloaded the "2002 Chevrolet Express Van Automatic L31 5.7L 4L60e 4wd (12212156)" tune. Now i have to figure out how, and what to do first, where to start, and step by steb to the finish line.

    - What do you guys sugest?

    - And if i make my pin swap, from blackbox to 0411, and connect my roadrunner installed in it via usb cable, will i be able by the usb, using tunercat RT, load the tune in the 0411 and start working on it?

    - Or may be i shall find a donner truck with 0411 installed, and ask the owner to use it, in order to connect my 0411 with the roadrunner installed, to load the tune, and make changes, and then take it off and make my swap (basically use someones track as abench)...?

    Thank you in advance!

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