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Thread: Swap: 5.7 TBI -> Vortec heads EFI -> 0411 pcm with roadrunner from moates.net-HELP!!!

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    Thank you very much for sharing Scott, well i have a friend that has the Tech2 scan tool, he bought it through Aliexpress, he uses that scan, and i used to borow it of him, before i started this project. I think it can do all that, plus to all, the cost of it was something like 120$.

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    2 way controls are better known as Bi-Directional control. Since the engine, trans and Antilock Braking System(ABS) are controlled by the same controller, its called a VCM(Vehicle Control Module). As such if you have a Scan Tool, such as your friends Tech 2, you can do work on your brake system, then use the scan tool to activate the ABS motor in order to clear it of air.
    You can activate any electric or aux fans to ensure they are wired correctly
    You can engage and lock an electric trans in any gear you wish, as well as toggle the TCC(torque Converter Clutch)

    And perform a CASE relearn (CASE=Crankshaft Angle Sensor Error) CASE relearns allow the VCM to accurately detect misfires after a new engine, different crank, new crank reluctor are installed into the truck.

    Is there no way to tune with EFILive without buying the V9? I thought you could use a V7 or something like that and only need the V9 for the ability to flash a PCM?

    Are you sure that they weren't asking for the number of your Roadrunner so that you could apply the EFILive/Roadrunner license?

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    Hello Hog,

    Yes I`m positive about that, aswell on the official EFILive website of the RoadRunner Realtime License, you have two rows to fill in, marked with a star *, meaning that must fill in, where one is *FlashScan Serial Number and the second one is *RoadRunner Serial Number. so if i just fill in Roadrunner serial number, the EFILive asks me to fill in the *FlashScan Serial Number, which i don`t have. So i thought ok, may be buying through moates.net, i can escape that,but NO.(((
    correspondence with moates about EFILive order.jpg
    EFILive attemp to buy.PNG

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    Ok guys, if you can help me now, i have got to start my swap soon, and want to get ready for it! In order to do that, i would like to make a step by step instructions on what i will have to do. Now i have on hands a 4L60E transmission, that if i install before the swap, will not work, since in my blackbox i have a tune for a manual transmission, since i have a 700R4 installed. and i have my 0411 PCM with Roadrunner, to make the PCM swap, and TunnerCat RT soft license and software, but when i just try to start it, it gives me an error unable to locate any Diffinition files (i guess it needs the Roadrunner connected via usb cable to work). And i have downloaded the "2002 Chevrolet Express Van Automatic L31 5.7L 4L60e 4wd (12212156)" tune. Now i have to figure out how, and what to do first, where to start, and step by steb to the finish line.

    - What do you guys sugest?

    - And if i make my pin swap, from blackbox to 0411, and connect my roadrunner installed in it via usb cable, will i be able by the usb, using tunercat RT, load the tune in the 0411 and start working on it?

    - Or may be i shall find a donner truck with 0411 installed, and ask the owner to use it, in order to connect my 0411 with the roadrunner installed, to load the tune, and make changes, and then take it off and make my swap (basically use someones track as abench)...?

    Thank you in advance!

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    Ok, Stupid me, i did not get the Definition File, from moates, normaly the license for 225$ includes one vdf, i have to apply to moates for it i guess.. But i have to figure out wich vdf i need. As Lextech has writen in his article, i need a "2002 Express Van (OS 12212156)", but i am not sure which it is from this list here, that is at moates.net:

    Vehicle Definition
    File P/N
    Supported Vehicles

    Trucks

    OBD2_07

    1996 – 97 Vortec Trucks (4.3L, 5.0L,
    5.7L, 7.4L)


    OBD2_06

    1998 – 00 Vortec Trucks (4.3L, 5.0L,
    5.7L, 7.4L)


    OBD2_19
    1999 –
    00 Medium Duty Trucks (7.4L MFI Gas)


    OBD2_03
    2001 –
    02 LS1 Trucks (4.3L, 4.8L, 5.3L, 6.0L, 8.1L)


    OBD2_04
    2003 –
    05 LS1 Trucks (4.3L, 4.8L, 5.3L, 6.0L, 8.1L)


    OBD2_14
    2006
    – 07* LS1 Trucks (4.3L, 4.8L, 5.3L, 6.0L, 8.1L)

    (*only 2007 trucks with old style
    PCM are supported)

    OBD2_29
    2002
    – 05 L6 4.2L Trailblazer, Envoy, Bravada

    OBD2_50
    2007
    – 08 V8 Trucks & SUVs (CAN Bus E38 ECM)

    OBD2_51
    2009
    – 12 V8 Trucks & SUVs (CAN Bus E38 ECM except 2011-12 L96 6.0L
    Heavy Duty Trucks)

    OBD2_52
    2007
    – 12 V6 4.3L Trucks & SUVs (CAN Bus E37 ECM)

    OBD2_59
    2008 – 2009 Cadillac SRX 4.6L
    2008 – 2012 Chevy Colorado 2.9L,
    3.7L and 5.3L
    2008 – 2009 Chevy Trailblazer, SS
    4.2L, 5.3L and 6.0L
    2008 – 2012 GMC Canyon 2.9L, 3.7L
    and 5.3L
    2008 – 2009 GMC Envoy 4.2L, 5.3L

    2008 – 2010 Hummer H3, H3T 3.7L and 5.3L
    V8 Cars
    OBD2_08
    1996 –
    97 LT1 Corvette, Camaro, Firebird, Impala

    OBD2_09 1997
    – 98 LS1 Corvette, Camaro, Firebird
    OBD2_01
    1999
    – 01 LS1 Corvette, Camaro, Firebird

    1999 – 2001 Holden
    OBD2_05
    2002 –
    03 LS1 Corvette, Camaro, Firebird


    OBD2_20
    2002 –
    2004 Holden


    OBD2_10
    2004
    LS1 Corvette

    OBD2_12 2004
    GTO
    OBD2_13 2004 – 05 Cadillac CTS-V

    OBD2_53
    2010
    – 12 V8 Camaro / 2009 – 2011 Corvette (except 2011 ZR1)
    OBD2_55 2006 – 08 Corvette
    OBD2_56 2008 – 09 Pontiac G8 V8
    V6 Cars
    OBD2_15 1996 Camaro/Firebird
    V6
    OBD2_16 1997 Camaro/Firebird
    V6
    OBD2_17 1998 – 1999 Camaro/Firebird
    V6
    OBD2_18 2000 – 2002 Camaro/Firebird
    V6
    OBD2_23 1996 V6
    Chevy*/Buick/Pontiac* 3.1, 3.4, 3.8L (*except
    Camaro/Firebird)
    OBD2_24 1997 V6
    Chevy*/Buick/Pontiac* 3.1, 3.4, 3.8L (*except
    Camaro/Firebird)
    OBD2_25 1998 – 1999 V6
    Chevy*/Buick/Pontiac* 3.1, 3.4, 3.8L (*except
    Camaro/Firebird)
    OBD2_26 2000 – 2001 V6
    Chevy*/Buick/Pontiac* 3.1, 3.4, 3.8L (*except
    Camaro/Firebird)
    OBD2_27 2002 – 2003 V6
    Chevy*/Buick/Pontiac* 3.1, 3.4, 3.8L (*except
    Camaro/Firebird)
    OBD2_28 2004 – 2005 V6
    Chevy/Buick/Pontiac* 3.1, 3.4, 3.8L (*2004/05 Grand Prix
    not
    supported)
    Transmissions
    OBD2_60 2007 – 2012 T42 Transmission
    Controller – 4 speed Automatic
    OBD2_61 2007 – 2012 T43 Transmission
    Controller – 6 speed Automatic

    And don`t know if the license will include the transmission or not..

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    Hello Hog, can you please help me choose the tunercat diffinition file i need to start with?

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    You will need the VDF for whichever calibration file you want to start with.
    I'm assuming that you want to keep the stock distributer and 4x reluctor, so I'd direct you towards the stock 2001-2002 calibrations.

    OBD2_03
    2001 –
    02 LS1 Trucks (4.3L, 4.8L, 5.3L, 6.0L, 8.1L)

    I realize that the 5.7 van isn't listed, but is indeed included in this VDF.

    peace
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    Thank you very much Hog! , i will apply to moates for the VDF, you meantioned. And wil start from there. Thank you!

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    It's strange, i did not get any reply from moates.net, but i have downloaded some different vdf files and same result, the tunercat just gives me same error, "unable to locate any Diffinition files".
    I as well wonder, I have downloaded the latest RRTuner.exe file, from the link http://www.moates.net/rtobd2-tunerca...l?cPath=100_55 -> Additional Links, and have installed it and registered. The .exe file is called rrtuner.exe, that have installed and registered. I have tryed downloading the .exe file from tunercat.com and upgrating it to RTtuner, but when i tryed to register, it says invalid registration data, and does not exept it for registration.

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    Hi guys, so finally i got the diff files, installed them (well, unpacked to the directory on the program). And got the TC RR Tuner software working. So now I’ll be looking for the most close to my setup tune.
    I have downloaded some .xdf & .bin files, but cannot find .cal files. As well, when i opened (loaded) one of the tunes, and had a look in how many different options and changes can be made in the tune, understood that i have a long trial to go through, and a bunch of work to make. Hopefully i will not mess anything up, well i hope i will not!
    Does anyone have a clue if there is a list of settings somewhere in the web, i have to consider, and pay attention to??? May be something like that exists???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lextech View Post
    Hi Aksl.
    Not very many people have the 0411/Roadrunner setup. Your questions may be answered better by posting them on the EFILive forum. There is a subsection devoted to the Roadrunner. Sorry I can't be any more help than that.

    Jeff

    Hello Jeff,

    Finally i got the TunerCat RT software instead of EFILive, because in order to buy the EFILive license, you are obliged to have the EFILive V2 cable and tuner, otherwise EFILive would not issue the license. So i went with the TunerCat. I`m now looking for the base tune to start of, for my set up. I wonder if you could help me with that. As well i wonder, if there is a list of settings somewhere in the web, that i have to consider, and pay attention to when changinr the tune for my setup???

    Thank you!
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    whats your setup?

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    Hello Nisanda, I have rebuild the engine, installed KB 0.25 forged pistons, comp cam 08-467-8, 1998 tahoe cylinder heads with manifold and all upper parts, AC DELCO 217-3029 89060440 spider injector kit. And i will install 4L60E gearbox. And its a 4wd with manual transfer case.

    Ow, and i have no EGR, and a traight out muffler.
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    But what motor L31 with 411 setup? (With the above mods of course)

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    Quote Originally Posted by NISANDA View Post
    But what motor L31 with 411 setup? (With the above mods of course)
    No, it`s a 350 EFI 1990 engine, with L31 engine heads, manifold and all of the top end is from L31, as well as the wiring under the hood and black box pcm, that i will be swapping to 0411.

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