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    Wanted to drop in an update that the test drive was mostly a bust. Same hesitation was happening, apparently in the places where dwell begins near a TDC / low res signal (i.e. around 90, 180, 270 degrees of dwell). 0.9.12 exhibited similar stumbling but it was much less pronounced. If you accelerate past that range it runs great. So more work is needed there.

    Hope to have it back together and running before the end of the year but I might try building a test rig out of my spare opti so I can at least attempt to make some progress while the car's out of commission.

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    i got my parts kit to build one of these things, no time to do it right now but our winters are long and boring so i'll be sure to get 'er done soon.. that'll inspire me to help with the coding end of things.

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    Good to know your parts made it through customs. I shipped another one to Canada on Thursday and it should be arriving soon with any luck.

    If you're serious about making a general purpose controller out of one you might want to take a look at where I'm at with 0.9.14 and try to gain an understanding of what tools are available to work with to add time based logic. I'll try to upload 0.9.15 to github tonight - it will be labeled as wip (work in progress) but it's effectively the same as .14. I think time based would actually be better in in many aspects. I have the feeling the 24x reluctor wheel setup on-crank was the next logical progression of the opti with it's 360 degree high res side ripe for causing routine starvation due to the large number of interrupts generated.

    I think the adc section can easily accommodate a coolant temperature sensor if you wanted to create entire timing tables. There should be plenty of flash available also - currently it needs 5.7k of 32k available. There's probably enough cpu bandwidth to handle a knock sensor input as well.

    I was just getting the bellhousing separated from the transmission yesterday when it occurred to me exactly how and why the hesitation was happening at the transitions where dwell needs to begin right around the TDC low-res signal. It should be super easy to fix by using a fifo type queue for dwell requirements.

    Super off-topic, but then again my mechanical issues have hindered this project immensely so I'm happy to report that I'm 99.999% confident I found the source of my noise. I'm still in disbelief, but when I pulled the #7 connecting rod loose I saw out of the corner of my eye and then heard something hit the bottom of the catch pan. Digging around the oil and coolant stew I found this piece of what appears to be weld spatter.



    Apparently it's been floating around in the oil feed in the crank for a while, and would get hung up in the bearing babbit and cause the rod to tap the crank. This was a strange one because the noise did seem to be louder at the bottom of the engine, but it was a very high pitched noise that sounded more like a valve clapping shut than a rod end. It also didn't go away completely when I disabled any cylinders, although #8 made the biggest difference.

    When I first saw this I thought it was a piece of spatter from my welding the adjustable guideplates together, but it's too big to get through the oil pump pickup screen. Outside of that route, I have no idea how it could have gotten into the oil feed system, much less make it's way into the 4th main journal feed - it would have had to make a left turn around the camshaft to boot (and that cam journal shows no signs of distress). So I'm guessing this had to be stuck inside the crank since the shop welded material back in my counterweights when I had it balanced in 2016.

    The toughest part of this is that I expected to find a broken hard part that required replacement. This would have given me a thoroughly plausible excuse to buy a stroker kit. It looks like the crank has sustained very little damage so I could probably get it back together with a set of gaskets and bearings. Decisions, decisions...

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    Now, that is the strangest crank story I have seen so far. I have never seen a piston skirt split, but I was thinking that a piston pin got bent, and it was thrusting on its side, scuffing the cylinder wall from not pivoting properly. On any other day, I would have been right. Today? Today is a very different day, indeed.
    That is just crazy.

    Anyways, I managed to get a board mostly soldered together, despite a my hyper 4 year old squab pestering me throughout. Not tested yet......someone is now stealing my chickens, so I have to let a BBQ owner 1 block away know I am onto him with a wildlife camera. <insert profanity here>
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    Quote Originally Posted by vilefly View Post
    Now, that is the strangest crank story I have seen so far. I have never seen a piston skirt split, but I was thinking that a piston pin got bent... That is just crazy.
    I know, right? I want to blame myself for welding the pushrod guides with flux wire on the engine, but I just can't see how a piece that big got past the screen, filter, into the main gallery and so forth. So it must have been sitting inside the crank like a time bomb since 2016.

    Once I had all the slugs out it was apparent the scuffing on the cylinder wall was no more or less than any of the other cylinders so I guess it was exaggerated by the poor lighting of the inspection camera.

    Quote Originally Posted by vilefly View Post
    Anyways, I managed to get a board mostly soldered together, despite a my hyper 4 year old squab pestering me throughout. Not tested yet......
    A quick + easy test is to apply 12v power between the two pads near the power supply section. Obviously the green power led should light, but if the yellow status comes on shortly thereafter that's a good sign the microcontroller is booting.


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    someone is now stealing my chickens, so I have to let a BBQ owner 1 block away know I am onto him with a wildlife camera. <insert profanity here>
    Now that's crossing the line. If you need backup I'm only 3 hours away. ;-)

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    Hey guys, I am back after a super long time, things have been super busy, and it looks like I have some reading to do!

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    So all the coding is way over my head, and I am sorry I didn't contribute much past opening up some cases, but I do have a decent running engine that I can test on, and it sees high RPM all the time.

    If you need a case designed, I can do that and get it printed, or I can weld up a metal one. Please let me know if I can help. Also I would like to buy the components from someone if possible

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