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    Turbo 400 to 4l80e swap need help

    I am attempting to swap my turbo 400 to a 4l80e. It's a 1991 class c (van front end) chevy rv with a 7.4, turbo 400, and 3.73 rear end. It currently has a 1228747 AUMZ ecm. Research on this site has told me I need a 16147060 AWAW pcm for what I'm trying to do. I went to the junk yard today and got a complete wiring harness out of a 93 Chevy box van that had a 4l80e in it. Pcm was gone (of course) So I jumped online and ordered a 16147060 BAAX
    This site shows that as a 5.7 4l80e pcm. This is where I'm out of my element, and I could use some help. I would like to turn the pcm I ordered into the one I need, and have no idea how to do that. I have access to a Tech 1, and Tech 2 diagnostic tools. (Don't know if that even matters) or do I need something completely different to reprogram the pcm? Any help would be appreciated thank you

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    Being as you are upgrading you might want to look into going to a 94/95 6395/7427. I have used the 7060 bamm and once I moved up I wouldn't switch back. If you went that route $OE would be the way to go.I do see that you have a 93 harness so that would have different plugs than the 6395/7427.
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    Another option would be to find a tcm from a Diesel truck/van with a 4L80E or an aftermarket standalone controller.

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    OK so I checked the wiring harnesses today and found that my stock harness (being an RV) has quite a bit more going on than the 93 box van harness I picked up yesterday. So I won't be using the 93 harness. It's not a total loss because now I have all the plugs I need for my 4l80e. So new plan....do they make a stock pcm for my application that I can splice the 4l80e plugs into. I currently have a 1228747 AUMZ (ecm with 2 black plugs) it ran a 7.4 with turbo 400 and 3.73 gears. My current setup is a 91 7.4 with a 93 4l80e and 3.73 gears. A tcm or stand alone controller is a good idea, but I would rather have a pcm with stock plugs where everything is working together

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    $OE will run your motor and 4l80e. As far as any extras your RV has I couldn't say. You would have to update the force motor in the trans but that isn't much of an issue. You still could use 7060 but it would be best to have one from a 7.4.
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    I would not splice the PCM connections. You can unpin them from the connectors and move them to the new connectors.

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    Good idea Fast355 I won't be splicing, I'll be unpinning. Myburb sorry if any of this sounds dumb, but I'm completely new to pcm reprograming/burning chip related stuff. Is the 7060 I ordered able to be programmed to run a 7.4? Or do I have to have one that started out as a 7.4 pcm. I did a ton of research on programing last night, and the tools I need to get started seem pretty expensive. It's seems like it might be more cost effective if I were to get a pcm and pay someone to set it up for what I need. (Unless someone knows of a halfway affordable setup I could buy) also I didn't realize my force motor needed to be changed to a different one. Do you know which one I would need?

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    You only need to change the force motor if you go to a later $OE bin. The earlier 80e had a cleaning cycle that the newer doesn't and runs at a different frequency. The reason it is desireable to start with a 7.4 memcal is if you go into limp home it would more closely match your unit. There is probably other items I am not thinking of. As to the hardware to program and tune yourself I suppose it depends pricewise if you just want to one time get it going and go driving or if it will be kinda your hobby. I think most find that one is continually tweaking to make it just a little bit better.
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    Oh wow great info. I never thought about the limp mode being different. So you mentioned the 6395/7427 earlier. Since I'll be repinning my harness to fit the 7060 anyway.....how much more difficult will it be to do 1 of those , and what makes them so much better? Does it matter that it's a 93-94 pcm and I'm running a 91 with 93 tranny?

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    The 6395/7427 are faster, way more things it does and I found it much easier to work with than the earlier. The bins, xdfs and adxs seem to be more complete and easier to work with. That is only my opinion so maybe someone else will jump in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antipoped View Post
    So I jumped online and ordered a 16147060 BAAX
    Does the one you purchased have a memcal in it ? All of the ones I have seen, new / remans come without the memcal. Even used ones on ebay are naked.
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    It's used but supposedly complete. I guess we'll see, it should arrive tomorrow.

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    So I found a 7060 nearby that came out of a 7.4 4l80e combo. Only problem is it was a 4wd vehicle. Will that matter? Would this be a good pcm to start with?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antipoped View Post
    It's used but supposedly complete. I guess we'll see, it should arrive tomorrow.
    If it is a 7060 and has the memcal, I can offer you a burned chip with the stock $D8 bin from my 1992 7.4 / 4L80E P37 (P30) RV chassis for the cost of shipping.
    That will get you running easily with the purchase of a G1 adapter and a zif socket from Moates.
    From there, you can get into re-tuning if you want to with the addition of a Burn2, Cable 2, TunerPro RT and Flash N Burn software.

    http://support.moates.net/93-tbi-trucks-4l80e-16147060/
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    Dean, that would be amazing! Just curious, does your 7060 have the stock memcal? If so what is it/was it? This site is great! I'm definitely intrigued about tuning now. I've been up and down that Moates site a bunch of times now. Lots of good tools and information.

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