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    $42 VE adds up over 100 on stock bin?

    This has been a topic I bring up a lot when tuning $42 1227747 ECM that the totals come up over 100?

    Just looked in TunerCat software and it is the same as the TunerPro XDF?

    Quote Originally Posted by RBob View Post
    Range is 0 to 100%, with both tables added together. If the main table has the RPM as the rows the ECU/XDF is incorrect. See the Tuning Guide Book sticky, chapter 5, '8063/'7747/'8746 section for a thread on the VE tables.
    RBob.
    Just read those articles and none inperticular to $42. But $61 was noted it was RPM column and MAP rows, the XCU/XDF was wrong.
    http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/di...yyyy-down.html
    I have been wondering why VE Main and Adder add up to over 100? Over tha last 5 years I have found 4-5 XDF for $42 and combined them all, they were all the same as Mastiff pictured? Has this been wrong forever?




    From the ASDX $42 hac
    Code:
    ;---------------------------------------------
            ; MAIN FUEL (VE1) Vs. MAP Vs. RPM
            ;  
            ; 10-05-2000 Dissassemby of ASDX
            ; 8 COL x 9 BLOCKS =  72 BYTES
            ;
            ;  TBL =  2.56  * VE %
            ;---------------------------------------------
            ORG $037C   ;
    L037C   FCB  0      ; MIN RPM Val
    L037D   FCB  16     ; Min KPA MAP Val
    L037E   FCB  8      ; LINES/BLOCK
            ;---------------------------------------------
            ; 20 KPA MAP
            ;                  VE %            RPM
            ;---------------------------------------------
    L037F   FCB  5      ;       2.0             400
    L0380   FCB  10     ;       3.9             800
    L0381   FCB  15     ;       5.9            1200
    L0382   FCB  25     ;       9.8            1600
    L0383   FCB  36     ;      14.1            2000
    L0384   FCB  46     ;      18.0            2400
    L0385   FCB  66     ;      25.8            2800
    L0386   FCB  75     ;      29.3            3200
            ;---------------------------------------------
            ; 30 KPA MAP
            ;                  VE %            RPM
            ;---------------------------------------------
    L0387   FCB  36     ;      14.1             400
    L0388   FCB  63     ;      24.6             800
    L0389   FCB  79     ;      30.9            1200
    L038A   FCB  96     ;      37.5            1600
    L038B   FCB  107    ;      41.8            2000
    L038C   FCB  109    ;      42.6            2400
    L038D   FCB  106    ;      41.4            2800
    L038E   FCB  90     ;      35.2            3200
            ;---------------------------------------------
            ; 40 KPA MAP
            ;                  VE %            RPM
            ;---------------------------------------------
    L038F   FCB  36     ;      14.1             400
    L0390   FCB  64     ;      25.0             800
    L0391   FCB  90     ;      35.2            1200
    L0392   FCB  103    ;      40.2            1600
    L0393   FCB  112    ;      43.8            2000
    L0394   FCB  114    ;      44.5            2400
    L0395   FCB  118    ;      46.1            2800
    L0396   FCB  116    ;      45.3            3200
            ;---------------------------------------------
            ; 50 KPA MAP
            ;                  VE %            RPM
            ;---------------------------------------------
    L0397   FCB  45     ;      17.6             400
    L0398   FCB  65     ;      25.4             800
    L0399   FCB  97     ;      37.9            1200
    L039A   FCB  109    ;      42.6            1600
    L039B   FCB  117    ;      45.7            2000
    L039C   FCB  122    ;      47.7            2400
    L039D   FCB  125    ;      48.8            2800
    L039E   FCB  127    ;      49.6            3200
            ;---------------------------------------------
            ; 60 KPA MAP
            ;                  VE %            RPM
            ;---------------------------------------------
    L039F   FCB  79     ;      30.9             400
    L03A0   FCB  92     ;      35.9             800
    L03A1   FCB  105    ;      41.0            1200
    L03A2   FCB  116    ;      45.3            1600
    L03A3   FCB  124    ;      48.4            2000
    L03A4   FCB  127    ;      49.6            2400
    L03A5   FCB  135    ;      52.7            2800
    L03A6   FCB  137    ;      53.5            3200
            ;---------------------------------------------
            ; 70 KPA MAP
            ;                  VE %            RPM
            ;---------------------------------------------
    L03A7   FCB  97     ;      37.9             400
    L03A8   FCB  100    ;      39.1             800
    L03A9   FCB  108    ;      42.2            1200
    L03AA   FCB  120    ;      46.9            1600
    L03AB   FCB  126    ;      49.2            2000
    L03AC   FCB  136    ;      53.1            2400
    L03AD   FCB  140    ;      54.7            2800
    L03AE   FCB  137    ;      53.5            3200
            ;---------------------------------------------
            ; 80 KPA MAP
            ;                  VE %            RPM
            ;---------------------------------------------
    L03AF   FCB  103    ;      40.2             400
    L03B0   FCB  106    ;      41.4             800
    L03B1   FCB  113    ;      44.1            1200
    L03B2   FCB  123    ;      48.0            1600
    L03B3   FCB  131    ;      51.2            2000
    L03B4   FCB  135    ;      52.7            2400
    L03B5   FCB  140    ;      54.7            2800
    L03B6   FCB  141    ;      55.1            3200
            ;---------------------------------------------
            ; 90 KPA MAP
            ;                  VE %            RPM
            ;---------------------------------------------
    L03B7   FCB  110    ;      43.0             400
    L03B8   FCB  115    ;      44.9             800
    L03B9   FCB  122    ;      47.7            1200
    L03BA   FCB  125    ;      48.8            1600
    L03BB   FCB  133    ;      52.0            2000
    L03BC   FCB  143    ;      55.9            2400
    L03BD   FCB  144    ;      56.3            2800
    L03BE   FCB  152    ;      59.4            3200
            ;---------------------------------------------
            ; 100 KPA MAP
            ;                  VE %            RPM
            ;---------------------------------------------
    L03BF   FCB  120    ;      46.9             400
    L03C0   FCB  120    ;      46.9             800
    L03C1   FCB  124    ;      48.4            1200
    L03C2   FCB  127    ;      49.6            1600
    L03C3   FCB  128    ;      50.0            2000
    L03C4   FCB  148    ;      57.8            2400
    L03C5   FCB  159    ;      62.1            2800
    L03C6   FCB  160    ;      62.5            3200
    And the adder:
    Code:
       ; MAIN FUEL TBL vs RPM, FL2
            ;
            ; 01-31-2000 Dissassemby of asdx
            ;  17  BYTES
            ;
            ;  TBL =  2.56  * VE %
            ;---------------------------------------------
            ORG $03C7   ;      VE %            RPM
                        ;---------------------------------
    L03C7   FCB  64     ;      25.0            0
    L03C8   FCB  100    ;      39.1          400
    L03C9   FCB  100    ;      39.1          800
    L03CA   FCB  100    ;      39.1         1200
    L03CB   FCB  100    ;      39.1         1600
    L03CC   FCB  100    ;      39.1         2000
    L03CD   FCB  100    ;      39.1         2400
    L03CE   FCB  100    ;      39.1         2800
    L03CF   FCB  100    ;      39.1         3200
    L03D0   FCB  105    ;      41.0         3600
    L03D1   FCB  90     ;      35.2         4000
    L03D2   FCB  82     ;      32.0         4400
    L03D3   FCB  55     ;      21.5         4800
    L03D4   FCB  45     ;      17.6         5200
    L03D5   FCB  25     ;       9.8         5600
    L03D6   FCB  0      ;       0.0         6000
    L03D7   FCB  0      ;       0.0         6400
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    1990 Chevy Suburban 5.7L Auto ECM 1227747 $42!
    1998 Chevy Silverado 5.7L Vortec 0411 Swap to RoadRunner!
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    Well it seems GM had made a mistake and when VE Main and VE added add up to over 100 all you get is 100. So that would explain why many 1227747 at WOT can not add more fuel, must add pressure and retune.

    There has always been another big mistake in the way the Main VE table was made in the XDF. Rows should be RPM and Columns should be MAP kpa.

    Thanks to RBob at:
    http://www.dynamicefi.com/
    and the conversation at TGO:
    http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/di...ge-7747-a.html
    we now have a correct $42 XDF. I will add it to the 1227747 $42 ECM information thread.
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    1990 Chevy Suburban 5.7L Auto ECM 1227747 $42!
    1998 Chevy Silverado 5.7L Vortec 0411 Swap to RoadRunner!
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