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    TunerPro starter Tutorial! New users this is a must read! :-)

    As I help teach new users of TunerPro I will update this starter tutorial. I have forgotten what is was like at the beginning. This is a very basic tutorial, just enough to get started so you understand the file lingo and what the program can do. For more in depth info start a thread...

    TunerPro RT does a lot! It's the only software you need to use for OBDI EFI tuning, but can be a little overwhelming at first because it does so much. So go to TunerPro and download and install the software. TunerPro just makes changes to chip/bin file. TunerPro RT does that and is also a scanner/data logger.
    http://tunerpro.net/downloadApp.htm

    For this start up guide we are going to use TunerPro RT and the 1227747 GM ECM which uses a $42 mask. All ECM/PCM have a mask, they start with $ indicating it's a hex number (you'll learn what a mask is below) as you read this post, really read the whole post first then come back to do it again, then all files needed can be found in this thread in one of the posts, here:
    http://www.gearhead-efi.com/Fuel-Inj...Information-42

    If you would rather use files for your vehicle but don't know which ones? There is a TunerPro Lookup Excel Spreadsheet to help find them here:
    http://www.gearhead-efi.com/Fuel-Inj...our-files-here!

    OK why do I need a mask to make changes in my chip? Well the file on the chip is called a BIN file, .bin is the extension on the end. It's written in computer languge called binary but usually worked on in hex and It looks like this.



    Ok where would you change the idle? Now there are guys here that know how to do this but still use TunerPro because it simplifies the changes because they are using software like TunerPro and a mask file so you can do the hex changes in english.

    Let's move on! You have downloaded TunerPro RT and installed it on your computer and opened it!

    Well there is a slight learning curve. May as well start by having a folder with originals and a set of duplicates to fall back on because you can change your bin, adx and xdf the way you want. You can also mess them up...

    Well with TunerPro RT you have to load a few things. It may take a few times reading this to sink in. All files needed can be found in this thread:
    http://www.gearhead-efi.com/Fuel-Inj...Information-42

    Here's what your need to download, read through then below more instructions how to put them in TunerPro.

    First your bin/chip/ASDU.bin

    Then you need the mask (xdf) to read the bin in English, not hex, $42-1227747-V3.xdf

    Then you need the file for data/scanner (adx) file for the bin/chip/ECM which is the $42-1227747-V3.adx

    The data logged is saved in a file with .xdl at end and can be named anything... you do not need this but it is in the thread above so you can see what a data log looks like and play it back to see how your engine is doing and where changes need to be made. It is file named 11-27-11-3.xdl
    With TunerPro downloaded and installed open it. Then...

    1. CHIP: .bin extension. TunerPro, File, Open Bin. Choose your bin you downloaded and saved. Now your bin is loaded in TunerPro.

    2. MASK: .xdf file extension. TunerPro still open, XDF, select your xdf you downloaded and saved, now your mask is loaded in TunerPro. You can now make changes to your chip/bin file.

    3. SCANNER/Data Logger: .adx file extension. TunerPro still open, Acquisition, Load Definition file you downloaded and saved . Now your acquisition file is loaded in TunerPro. You can now record data from car. Or play back a data log if you do next step.

    4. DATA LOG: .xdl file extension. TunerPro still open, Acquisition, Load Log file.

    Here's some more so you don't have to do this each time you close and open TunerPro.

    Tools, Preferences, General, check the box to load your last xdf and bin at startup... I have everything on left side checked, right side your choice, I would leave default for now, then over to Data acquisition and Emulation and check load last adx at start up. Now you will have your files ready each time you open. Also if you make a change and forget to save it will remind you if you close it. Maybe you were playing and do not want to save?

    I also tell guys to right click on tool bar and check all tool bars! Get used to the buttons, they are the same as going through the menu items.

    There's a start! HTH!

    You should now be able to play with, change, improve or mess up anything!

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    Common problems with TunerPro USB connections and no data. Read this from Moates.
    http://www.gearhead-efi.com/Fuel-Inj...ro-Tuning-Talk

    Common problems with glitchy jumping data with TunerPro V5 and Imported TPV4 ADS file to TPV5 ADX file from Moates.
    http://support.moates.net/2011/06/05/tprtv5-ads-to-adx/

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    do you have to have a cable and be hooked to an ecm to be able to read files? i have downloaded the tunerprort and am wanting to just read files on this site to get a feel for it.

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    Nope load them up, find your bin or a bin and look around. Can also look around data side as well but of course won't see data till your hooked up.

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    ok still trying to figure that part out.

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    Gotta be more specific then that... It will also help me remember when I started and maybe I can add to the starter post above.

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    well i downloaded the program. i came on here and downloaded some bin files for the 427 mask to look at it since that is what i am going with. when i go to the downloaded bin and double click it it opens tunerpro but there is nothing in it. i dont see anything like it did not load. it says it is there at the top. but i am unable to see anything. i think i have clicked on just about every button there.

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    You also need the mask/XDF to read the bin/chip.

    2. MASK: .xdf file extension. TunerPro still open, XDF, select your xdf you downloaded and saved, now your mask is loaded in TunerPro. You can now make changes to your chip/bin file.
    Then if you don't see the Paremeter Tree click View, Paremeter tree and then open up Scalers, Flags and Tables.

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    I think the link to the tutorial should be posted in here http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLAA721B5634A4EC45

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    Where I can find the mask ID for my ECU through BIN file? Or any other way to find out the mask ID?

    Thanks

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    ok got rid of windows 8 junk. reloaded computer back to windows 7. ahhhhh. then ran thru this tutorial step for step. got my laptop to communicate with the car so i can seee things now. darnit at last. now i need to find all the readings as to what they should be. and find out exactly what i need to try to tune. or better yet do some datalogging and get someone here to burn me a chip. SO.
    1. what exactly do i need to burn chips from moates

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    Depends on the ECM? But a Burn 2 or AutoProm, chip and adapter, your already data logging...

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    EagleMark, another newbie question..been tuning my '94 Z28 w/flash PCM for a few years with TunerCat. It reads the .bin from the PCM, no problem. I'm Now learning TunerPro and trying to learn how to tune my 1995 Cheyy G20 conversion van ECM 161996395 (7427). Been searching for two days and can't find out how the heck you can read the .bin file off of the ECM. Or if it's even possible. Every tutorial I read assumes you already have a .bin file available to tune, is that how it's done ?
    I'm Bob 1994 Z28, A4, CAI, Cam, 1.6RR's, LT's, stall, cat-back, tuned w/TunerCat $EE and TTS Datamaster. 1995 Chevy G20 conversion van, 5.7L A4 stock no tune..

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    No flash through ALDL on that one. That PCM has a Memcal. You need to pull it out and get a HDR1 from Moates
    http://www.moates.net/hdr1-memcal-he....html?cPath=64

    And a G1 adapter for a flash chip from Moates
    http://www.moates.net/g1-memory-adap....html?cPath=64

    Couple 27FS512 chips from Moates
    http://www.moates.net/c2-sst-27sf512....html?cPath=26

    ANd a Burn 2
    http://www.moates.net/burn2-chip-pro....html?cPath=64

    Or AutoProm
    http://www.moates.net/apu1-autoprom-....html?cPath=64

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    Hello EagleMark. Can you list out the required hardware to read/burn chips from a 7747 PCM like you did for the 7427 above? I'm still on the fence about installing a G2 adapter and using 27FS512 chips. What I really want to be able to do is get my engine running well (20 to 50 burns?) then call it good and pass the equipment on to the next lucky person.

    I "think" I need a Burn 2, HDR1, ALDL cable, UV eraser, and software. Is that right?

    Thanks,

    Steve

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