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    Getting TPV5 to work with 7747

    Ok, hopefully this is the correct place for this. I have an 87 V10 305 700R4 with 3.73 gears. I use winaldl and TPV4 to log, and am trying to get TPV5 to work on my truck. I am using the xdf and adx I downloaded from this site, and an ADHC bin. Since everything works in winaldl and TPV4, I am certain that I am doing things correctly. The xdf I am using with TPV4 is also the xdf I downloaded from here. I also have checked the settings to make sure that the serial port is the same as TPV4 and winaldl.

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    I've had that issue when using WinALDL, then I could not hook up to TunerProV5? I had to close all programs and restart computer, then plug in cable and open TP. Now I don't remember this happening with WinALDL but with TPV5 sometimes my Com3-4 is on right side USB port and sometimes on my left USB post? Why the change I don't know but they do.

    Also can check settings for cable under Tools, Preferences and then Data Acqusition. Mose pointer is to cennection button when ready to connect to vehicle.

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    Did all that. I even tried adding listen for silence and listen for packet commands. My usb to serial converter is on COM1.

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    I see on TP website that there are different XDF for V4 and V5 for 9 gm mask ID. Does the V4 .xdf work in V5? I don't think I have tried that out.
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    I'm pretty sure he has my $42 files from here and I know they are good, his truck should be 1227747 or 161 equivilent... he's just not getting TPV5 connected to vehicle... I hate to say this but I finally installed WinALDL because of this... it's like it took complete control of the COM port and cable and would not share... uninstalled it, restarted laptop with cable plugged in and TunerPro found it! Was easy to give up once I found TP can do all it did and so much more.

    Did all that. I even tried adding listen for silence and listen for packet commands. My usb to serial converter is on COM1.
    Really no need for that if you got the $42-1227747-V3.adx and xdf those are solid as is! Those are not starter files, those have many, many hours of my time into them!

    Not sure if TP likes COM 1 ? See if you can change to Com 3... but once you get hooked up to TP if you ever open WinALDL again it's a hostel takeover!

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    Yeah, I usually try tpV5 as soon as I boot up. I will try changing the port to 3 and see if that helps. It's easy to change the port in device manager, so no problem there.

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    I think that may do it, your cable works so you must have the right drivers installed... it's not uncommon this issue when starting with TP after using WinALDL.

    Then after com change, restart, plug in cable and should hear alert, I do, then open TP and can use the test interface, or just connect to car... if no go try another USB port. Don't know why but mine is sometimes on right side, sometimes on left side?

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    Running Windows 7. We had an issue with TurnerPro RT not finding com port. Looked in device manager and saw com port 1 in use. Might need to got down advanced path. No programs running that used com ports. Could not figure out why. Rebooted etc.

    We deleted all usb drivers including hidden except for flash drives. Plugged in cable and ran Turnpro RT. Worked.

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    Well, I just got done fighting with TPV5 again. This is frustrating. I switched to com 3, both is device manager and TPV5. no connect. error on com3 in device manager. (win XP) Switched to com 1, TPV4 works, no error in device manager. Switch to com 4 both device manager and TPV5. no connect. go back and try test connection button in preferences and it says cable not found. Here is what is strange. I switch just TPV5 to com 3, leaving device manager at com4, then use the test connection button in preferences and it says cable found and good!!! How can that be?

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    You are at a frustrating point where many have been including myself. What was said above on removing all USB drivers I did not have to do, but did remove all USB from device manager, restarting computer and let it install what it needs for what it has, then plug in cable was my cure as well...

    Why does test comunication give a false positive? Don't know but did that before as well...

    You did install all FTDI drivers correct?

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    FTDI drivers?

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    The cable you got should have come with installation CD and the FDTI drivers (software)... but you must have them if it was working with other software? This is a common problem with all cables Moates already did a few articles. There are 2 before the last one which removes all USB drivers, then reinstall your cable... so read on... I removed all my USB devices without the driver cleaner, restarted my computer and it installed everything needed for USB hub and ports on my laptop but I was hooked up to internet/wireless, then plugged in cable and it installed itself but I had already loaded the drivers. They are available at the links below.

    I really don't know why TPV5 is so hard to get to once you have used your cable with other software? I wish I knew an exact cause an answer for you...

    http://support.moates.net/2009/02/10...eshooting-101/

    http://support.moates.net/2009/02/10...-installation/

    http://support.moates.net/2009/02/10...ivers-ftclean/

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    Okay, I uninstalled all drivers and reinstalled with latest drivers from the internet. I finally figured out why I could not get my laptop to use COM 3 for the USB to Serial converter. My built-in softmodem was using com 3. I changed it to com 2, then changed my converter to COM 3. I changed TPV4, TPV5 and winaldl to com 3. After a reboot, winaldl connected. I exited winaldl and rebooted my laptop and tried TPV4. It connect and worked fine. I then tried TPV5. Still no love.
    This is getting frustrating. My position as a software developer (I wrote device drives for serial devices) is that it has to be TPV5 as TPV4 works fine. I know that Mangus insists that TPV4 and V5 share code, but something is different!
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    I agree, but! If you would have done that and connected to TPV5 you would have been done. I don't know why but when you use WinALDL and then try TPV5 you are screwed? Your a software writer and so is Mangus. It's beyound me, all I can tell you is you and I and so many others can not use WinALDL and TPV5! Get rid of it! You don't need it, TPV5 will do what WinALDL does and so much more. It is like a hostle takeover and TPV5 is left out! Why? I don't know...

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    I would get rid of winaldl in a heartbeat if TPV5 worked. I don't run winaldl and then try tpV5 in the same session, always a reboot between them.
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