Well I'm figurung this ADS file is built from origanal ALDL DS files. I have all them.
Once they are converted or built you have the equivilent for instance $42 is ALDL A033.ds converted is now A033.ads. Import to Tunerpro and you now have an ADX that can be custimized in TP and hand edited in NotePad or EditPad.
Most ds files have been converted and available on TP website but the one I need is not.
Does anyone know how to convert/build an ADS from the DS?
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In the effort to lean...
What is a ALDL DS file? Is it a datastream defination file from like a scan tool? Did you just copy that file from a scan tool and then convert it to another file type to be used in tunerpro? I know ads is what the older versions (pre version 5) of tunerpro used, and version 5 converts them to adx. I have no idea what all these names or file extensions mean, so I have no idea what the diffrence is.
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It's not overly difficult, just time consuming.
What you have to do is use the parameters that are stated in the DS file as the information you need to imput in to TP to create the ADS or ADX.
Look for my 160 Baud ADX tutorial on the Tuner Pro site, IIRC it's in the Scanner Pro forum. There are some differences when building an 8192 baud ADS/ADX, but most of the information is a straight across copy.
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here are a couple links:
160 Baud ADX tutorial
A thread I started previous to the one above, that has some information about the bitmasks and such that can get a bit confusing:
Creating ADX files...
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I looked over some 160 baud stuff I am familar with like the $42 which is from A033.ds and it made sense comparing it to an ads or adx file... I think I could do that... but there is no need they are all done...
But when I looked at the 8192 baud stuff and compared it to known files nothing made sense? Commands listed in ds were not correct in ads or adx... that is hard to follow... I figured if I could compare some stuff I could figure out why my EE.adx shows weird data...
I think this is going to be a long learning curve...
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You have to make sure you are using the correct .DS file to compare to. Sometimes there are multiple .DS files listed for the same or similar applications.
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Done that several times. The one for EE was written using A223.ds for a Y car. Commands do not match up to EE.adx but are close, extras were added? Couple were wrong? Like 0x57 should be 0x56 from the ALDL.ds
My car is A276.ds I started with the EE.ADX and re wrote all commands exactly from A276.ds and will try it out later.
EE.adx for LT1 can not work on Y car, F car and B car because they all use differant ds files. I verified this by getting a trail of DataMaster and there is a differant setting for each car... for instance CCM has to be silenced on Y car. B car does not have CCM tied into datastream but does have SDM or SIR and EBCM tied into serial data that would need to be silenced. The way I redid the commands were straight from the A276.ds and it looks like they are in there. For comparison my commands are twice as long as origanal EE.adx...
But then again I checked the $OD.adx stuff and it did not match up to ALDL data A219 or A217, I forget which, again extras were added... So even if I get them right I need to know more about how TP uses them... or what the extras are?
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JeepsAndGuns wrote:
What is a ALDL DS file?
ALDL -- Assembly Line Diagnostic Link
DS -- Data Stream
OBD -- On Board Diagnostics. Mandated in the US. OBD I, OBD II etc.
http://delcohacking.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=220&p=14029#p2489
I've made a sorted pdf of this information, if there was somwhere to upload it.
The data stream files for GM OBDI cars '86 to '95 or so, can be found here:
ftp://diy-efi.org/pub/gmecm/ALDLstuff.zip
( this will download the file if you enter it into any web browser )
These file look like they came from GM. They define what data flows between the ECM and a scanner tool. EagleMark is converting one of these files to a format acceptable to TurnerPro RT.
Robert
Last edited by historystamp; 12-10-2011 at 11:17 PM.
Right here is open to any EFI documents!Originally Posted by historystamp
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Here is a pdf file with common abbreviations used in ALDL data streams.
abbrevations defined.pdf
Thanks! I copied that post to it's own thread and will add it to the FAQ thread!
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