Towing with T56

**lionelhutz** · 12-14-2013

So, since you don't like my post you attack me like an asshat???

Good job...

So when someone reads your claim that it's fine and tries to tow a load a 1000 miles and their transmission fails your answer will be that he should have changed the oil every 100 miles? If your transmission was cooking then you could have lowered the oil life from 10's of thousands of miles to 100's of miles.

Overall, your post claiming that your success means any worries about towing with a T56 are mindless is just more internet drivel since you have no real data to back it up. Don't bother coming back unless you have an oil temperature reading or an oil sample.

**CDeeZ** · 12-14-2013

I think it's funny how you come in here acting like some kind of authority on the matter, claiming that other people's experiences are null and void because they don't meet your expectations.

And you have resorted to name calling. Very mature. Very scientific. and Very informative.

I'm sharing my experience with others because it was a successful one, and there are a lot of posts scattered throughout the web of people saying you can't tow with a T56 for one reason or another....
Where in my post did I say that the oil should be changed every 100 miles? Your logic sucks. My answer would be, you should have done some more research, and not resorted to the lazy man's heurestic like you just did.

So what you're saying is real world experience in doing something is useless, that we should only ever theorize about it and try to pointlessly, endlessly quantify, organize, stratify it. Just get out there and do it and see what happens.

Ya know, it's a classic case of: it's not what you say but how you say it. You could have worded your first post a thousand other ways "That's an intersting find, but I would have really liked to see temp data!"

My post is real world experience. Actually getting off the computer and doing something rather than perpetuating mindless mental masturbation (your specialty obviously). Maybe you should try it sometime, you might rise above the ranks of a self professed expert.

YES, it would have been AWESOME to get some temp data. Relevant and useful, I agree with you there. Unfortunately, I didn't have the ability to do that this time. Maybe next time I will be able to. But for you to say that real world experience is useless? That's ridiculous.

**lionelhutz** · 12-14-2013

Rant and rave all you want, you still don't have any actual data that proves the transmission still operated safely during towing. In case you don't understand what I mean by safely I am meaning in an operating condition that will not lead to it's premature demise.

**brian617** · 12-14-2013

Need to invest in a leaf blower, wait is that a personal attack? I'm kidding

No hard feelings here.

**CDeeZ** · 12-14-2013

Oh there is data there in the form of real world experience. Hard to see from that ivory tower i know.

Leaf blower? :)

**lionelhutz** · 12-14-2013

Why don't you enlighten everyone and explain how your single experience towing 100 odd miles has proven that a T56 won't prematurely fail if you tow with it without some kind of data showing it was operating safely? For example, temperature data, wear data or oil analysis data that proves nothing wasn't being hurt during the tow.

**CDeeZ** · 12-14-2013

I'm sorry. It's not my duty to enlighten you.

I have towed MANY things with my truck since T56 swapping it. Did I bother to catalogue each instance with a full reportoire of data for you to review? No.

These are facts:

My fullsize truck, that wasn't supposed to have a T56 from the factory, now has it.

Scored a USED T56 on craiglist and installed it.

FIVE years later, after much daily driving and spirited driving ( I haven't been nice to my T56), and some occasional towing, still going strong with no sign of failure. That's not good enough of course. Not space age technology......

You're the one with the labratory obviously, why don't we use that for your uber scientific analysis?

Mrplow did a T56 swap before alot of us:

http://www.fullsizechevy.com/forum/general-discussion/technical-maintenance/95731-t56-6-speed-swap-2.html
But that's worthless too, there is no official NASA spec printout with special congressional authorization to verify it so yeah it's no good......

**brian617** · 12-14-2013

Claiming that towing with a T56 is no different than a NV4500 is the same as saying towing with a 1/2 pickup is the same as a 3500 dually. Sure your 1500 can pull that same weight, but can you stop it in a safe distance if required? The gears in the NV are taller and wider, the mainshaft is much larger diameter and the counter shaft matches the rest of the components as well as larger bearings. Those are the facts.

**CDeeZ** · 12-14-2013

I didn't say it was the same as a NV4500 are you serious!?!?!

3/4 ton brakes on my 1/2 so no problems with brakes at all.................

I originally read (I believe on Keislers website?) that the T56 was SUPPOSED to be a truck trans, but they never did that and instead it ended up in the Viper before anything else.