Quote Originally Posted by 1project2many View Post
We're a tough crowd here.



You can buy a pcm at the junkyard and it's yours to disassemble with no legal warnings or disclaimers. You can have your pcm reflashed at the dealer or an independent without signing any agreement not to reverse the box and without receiving any warnings. The message is intended for the technician and software subscriber, not the pcm owner. Once you have a programmed pcm, obtaining a legal copy of the calibration is as simple as reading it then storing it.

In most cases the average person can't obtain any bin files to tune unless they use Winflash to read the pcm first. So that would mean all calibrations and bin files should be off limits. If the bin files we can read are all from TIS, are you saying Saturn and Northstar calibrations are not available through TIS? Considering as how many CD's were thrown away by GM dealers in the '90s and early 2000s I'd be surprised if none of them have any of these calibrations.

You've been at the dealer since 1999. I've diagnosed and repaired vehicles with CAMS and maintained the T10 when it ran PCDOS and WFW 3.11 through subsequent OS upgrades. If you started in '99 you should remember programming back then. SPS did not have a warning about reading cals and neither did the Tech2 when you used it to transfer cals from SPS. Saturn and the older Northstar engines would have had any reprogramming done through that software vs TIS that's available today. The warning you see today would not apply to vehicles programmed with another programming tool.
Just by chance do you rebuild clusters in house and PCM's at the dealer?