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    I can't see a new driver not working like an old driver? Just checked my cable on laptop and still running:
    Driver FTDI
    Date 4/10/2012
    Version 2.8.24.0

    AutoProm on pass through cable found and funtion. Com 4
    ALDL cable found and funtion. Com 5

    Quote Originally Posted by RobertISaar View Post
    i'm up to COM30 on TP V5 without issue?
    Com 30

    I think I am permantly spooked by TPV4. I uninstall every USB and then restart computer and let it have what it needs. Then install all my cables and tuning devices. All under 7! Then a wireless USB mouse, printer and whatever?

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    i have the computer set to assign a new COM port for every new adapter i plug in. apparently up to ~30 since the last time i installed windows, which wasn't too long ago.
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    Well,

    I tried to connect to one of my '7427 trucks with no success , I also downloaded different drivers and tried those to no avail.

    Today , Mark was kind enough to take some of his time (THANK YOU MARK !!!!!) to jump on my laptop and poke around a bit , we came up empty there also , after we got off of the phone I uninstalled all USB and restarted , the cable along with all of my other USB devices reinstalled but no success with the new cable.

    For now I really do not know what to do , I know that Robert tests each assembly so I highly doubt there is a problem with the new cable .

    I give up for now , guess i'll revisit it later and see if I can figure it out ........

    Thanks for all of the suggestions , wish it would have worked out.

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    i'm working on some troubleshooting steps now, i'm not sure how simple i'll be able to make everything, but it will be in-depth.

    in the end, the fastest way to go about it is that the more stuff you have around to swap out to rule out what is problematic, the better. more common/supported stuff will also help immensely.



    i believe you're the one that mentioning killing off your last cable? care to elaborate on that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobertISaar View Post
    i believe you're the one that mentioning killing off your last cable? care to elaborate on that?
    The cable I was using was an old setup from Andrew (AKM cables) , truthfully there is really nothing "wrong" with it other than it is old , I have repaired it a few times in the years I have had it and it needs to be re soldered where the ALDL connection is as I pulled the wires out of the junction the other night when I tripped over it ........

    Figured it was just as easy to buy a new one that to keep fixing the old.

    No problem Robert , I know it's not the cable , its something on my end , just need to find it .

    Thanks for the support

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    Robert does test them all before they get shipped, this is why I thought it would be easy for me to remote desktop and set it up. But you had everything right... ?

    Robert, there may be a driver issue? Tom has a 32 bit system, we downloaded new FTDI drivers and they had a date of 7-12.13 IIRC, well the new drivers are dated 8-1-13 and we could never get it installed. The drivers on my PC which is 64 bit are dated
    Driver FTDI
    Date 4/10/2012
    Version 2.8.24.0
    If I try to update them it says they are latest?

    Could this be an issue?

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    i've been using the FTDI drivers since..... 2008? and haven't had an issue with any of the versions they've ever released. i just downloaded the newest setup EXE from the ftdichip source while writing out a troubleshooting guide. they updated fine, the last time i did so was probably around 6 months ago. when i go into the device manager, a release date of 7/12/2013 is shown, with a version of 2.8.30.0.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobertISaar View Post
    i've been using the FTDI drivers since..... 2008? and haven't had an issue with any of the versions they've ever released. i just downloaded the newest setup EXE from the ftdichip source while writing out a troubleshooting guide. they updated fine, the last time i did so was probably around 6 months ago. when i go into the device manager, a release date of 7/12/2013 is shown, with a version of 2.8.30.0.
    That is what he had installed. But that is not what FTDI website says is latest release?

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    Update ,

    Just because I was so frustrated with this whole thing , I plugged Roberts cable into my old (ancient) Windows XP MSN netbook that usually takes up residence in my 3500 Dually with the MPFI 502 . I had brought it in the shop on my return trip from VA this past week as I needed a file off of it and was putting the truck in the other garage.

    Anyways , plugged the cable in , windows downloaded the driver , installed it (COM 15 ) , looked it up in Tunerpro , set to COM 15 and viola , worked perfect . Datalogged my 454SS without a problem.

    Apparently the issue lies with my E5520 series Windows 7 Pro Dell laptop (both of them) , my personal laptop and my work laptop (the one we were fooling with today Mark) are both the same machine , with the same system on them. I don't know what the problem with the machines could be , but tomorrow I intend on trying the cable in my S10 with the Sony Viao (Win XP Pro) . We shall see what happens.

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    Glad it's not the cable!

    Strange a newer laptop is giving us issues? But does narrow the issue to PC/Driver or? and not the cable...

    EDIT: Notes to remember, this PC was an I5 processor IIRC so fairy new stuff. But only a 32 bit system? Which I thought was strange, this is what was listed in Control Panel under System.

    FTDI did list 32 and 64 bit drivers.

    We did try all USB ports and the cable did not need to reinstall on any, it was always there on Com 7.

    HTH!

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    Quote Originally Posted by EagleMark View Post
    Glad it's not the cable!

    Strange a newer laptop is giving us issues? But does narrow the issue to PC/Driver or? and not the cable...
    Yes sir it does ,

    I can't thank you enough Mark , for taking YOUR time today to log on and try to help .

    I knew it wasn't Roberts cable , everyone else that got one had no problems , I knew it must have been my setup.

    Hope I can figure out what is the problem with the Dell , I really like the machine ........ just makes no sense as to the problem.

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    well, that is an interesting turn of events.... normally the newer laptops work with the least amount of issues.

    tried different USB ports on the machine? i KIND of want to lean towards maybe motherboard's chipset driver(s), or perhaps the USB controller driver itself, i can't remember if they're seperate anymore(i don't think they have been for probably a decade). maybe i'm really off the wall, but if you have a USB hub, try connecting through that? if not, perhaps time spent in the device manager playing with the USB transfer size and the latency timer might solve the issue? otherwise, you might have to contact Dell about any ideas for a fix(or perhaps a Dell forum?). last time i did that, it was pretty useless, i have a hard time understanding the Indian accent.

    also(since it wasn't specified), XP SP3 is required for V5. XP SP2 has worked for someone who has downloaded the missing files required that SP3 adds, but i don't remember what they are anymore.
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    This link indicates a BIOS update could be an issue, also has some Dell diagnostic tests at bottm.
    http://www.dell.com/support/troubles...cid=DSN_361761

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    That sounds like my problem

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    very well could be. if you have another laptop(or even an easily moved desktop and some extension cords?), that would be one way to see if it could be the problem.
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