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    Quote Originally Posted by dave w View Post
    Holley TBI have Adjustable Fuel Pressure Regulators? Try less fuel pressure. Was the Holley TBI on the engine before the rebuild?

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    No, he had the stock rochester and all sensors have been replaced 3 times trying to track down this issue. fuel pressure is currently at 12 psi.
    Mark, all he has is an ALDL cable, and TPRT....is there a way to just log without diag. mode?

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    I don't know how he got in Diagnostic Mode? ALDL mode is when 10K is applied which is the mistake people usually make. Diagnostic mode was IIRC 3.9k and I don't even remember what for? Or is diagnostic mode when A and B are crossed?

    Does his CEL work correctly?

    1project2 many may know what Diagnostic mode is or how it got there?

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    Diagnostic mode is 10K across A-B. 3.9K enables Backup fuel / LHM and Field Service is enabled when A-B are shorted. Once upon a time the 7747 wouldn't even give out data unless you were in diag mode. Some of the cables come with DIAG mode automatically enabled.

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    Thanks 1project2many!

    Well then he has the 10K on cable, should be open. But there might be more wrong because I have seen other data from people with ALDL mode enabled with 10k?

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    crapola...should I have him pull A and/or B out of the ALDL?

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    ? I just plug my cable in and don't use the jumper for 10k. Or use my AutoProm and don't use 10k switch. What is he using for cable?

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    Even if he gets the Diagnostic Mode off I don't think data is going to help with vacuum that low at idle... something mechanical is wrong!

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    yeah, we are looking at everything. I have him adding a heated o2 for long tubes. then take the 10 k chip out.

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    With vacuum that low, data or heated O2 is moot.

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    Ok, so he sent me a log, I told him to unplug the cts, reading drops to -40* and he apsaid it started running real good.
    Why would it straighten up at -40, and run pig rich at 70*? Ideas?
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    Hard to tell what a cold motor is doing open loop, but as you know going to -40C is adding fuel! What I saw when he added fuel was vacuum go up?

    EDIT: Diagnostic mode still on?

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