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    This forum is set to allow most any file we need and I'm sure Datamaster is one. Let me know if there is an issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EagleMark View Post
    This forum is set to allow most any file we need and I'm sure Datamaster is one. Let me know if there is an issue.
    Might need to zip the DataMaster data log (.uni)?

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    Run Files from Datamaster

    Here is one of the Datamaster files

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    Looks rich to me, based on the Histogram tables I've posted screen shots for. I'm not sure if the rich condition is near idle or open throttle, maybe both? I noticed a fault code 42 in log 2.

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    Yea in log 2 I guess the timing connector wasn't plugged all the way in? Top of the plug reads rich idle I think

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    There was thread a few months ago about being able to make corrections yourself with MS Access Spreadsheet. http://www.gearhead-efi.com/Fuel-Inj...ghlight=vecals

    The VECALS 4 .zip is in the tread. Instructions are included in the .zip. The VECALS spreadsheet is designed to work with TunerPro RT. You will need to read the .bin file in your chip. VECALS will do all the "MATH" to correct the "RICH" settings in your current .bin. I'm not sure what TBI Chips is using to correct .bin files?

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    For some reason, this conversation has me thinking back to a thread on another forum regarding 2 ignition modules for TBI, pertaining specifically to spark latency settings matching what is in the ecm.

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    Pretty sure all the 94 5.7L Spark Latency are same in mask. Modules are same too if ordered for same. There's a latency issue with some early TBI truck and cars, but thats only a few degrees, many more degrees from aftermarket. (Large cap HEI is again totally differant.) We don't even know which one he has. One of his symptoms sounds like a faulty EST and he ordered a GM. But I don't think that's the overall issue?

    There's also a code 42 (EST) that needs to be cleared and see if it returns. It also sets when disconnecting bypass wire for timing.

    There is something weird about stock chip to aftermarket though? Won't know unless we could read them? Still pig rich if a fairly new plug has black on ring? I'd have all the plugs pulled by now... checked fuel pressure.... vacuum reading.... data log.... have someone with a strong heart check spark plugs wires and coil for arcs...

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    could the possibility of having headers be the issue? I know on mine the headers made my NBo2 voltages way off from stock causing blm's to read wrong compared to my WB02. add that then a cam that has a little more valve overlap than stock. This was one of the first things I banged my head against when I started tuning. I only realized what was happening when I installed the WB02
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    Quote Originally Posted by PJG1173 View Post
    could the possibility of having headers be the issue? I know on mine the headers made my NBo2 voltages way off from stock causing blm's to read wrong compared to my WB02. add that then a cam that has a little more valve overlap than stock. This was one of the first things I banged my head against when I started tuning. I only realized what was happening when I installed the WB02
    I'm thinking with shorty headers, provided the single wire O2 sensor is still located near the stock exhaust manifold location, is not going to have an effect on overall rich / lean data. I have shorty headers on my 93 K1500, and have not seen any issues with the single wire O2 sensor I'm using. The shorty headers I'm using have the O2 sensor in same locaion as the original stock exhaust manifold did.

    Long tube headers using a single wire O2 sensor can be a real problem!

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