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    Datalog with EGR disabled

    Hello all! I just did a datalog to help get my VE tables closer. I disabled EGR and tried to be easy on pedal to stay out of AE and PE. They stayed inactive most of the time so should be fairly accurate log. My engine is basically stock with a slightly larger cam, headers, dual exhaust with glass packs, modified TBI with adjustable fuel pressure regulator and the heads have new springs and valve job with roller tip rockers just the 1.52 ratio ones. Posting the datalog. I have adjusted the timing and the rev limit a little but still seems weak bottom end. Pulls great above 2000rpm's. I'm still learning this tuning stuff so any suggestions greatly helpful and appreciated. I have read many many forums and posts for the last year on tuning so my heads full of stuff that i know little about lol. I have attached the bin also i used for this datalog it has my adjusted VE table after I used the spread sheet.
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    Forgot to mention its the 0D mask original ecm and mask is 16297427 with BJYK bin in a 1995 K1500

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    The BLMs look real good. Except around idle which is normal with a cam change. But there's something wrong in the bin Idle VE Vs MAP VS RPM, your Idle VE table. Look at it in wireframe view and easy to see a HUGE spike in area of idle where BLM are off. 35 MAP, 800 RPM. Ouch! Hard to tune that... if you didn't accedently do this it may be the biggest GM spike I've seen!

    The low power under 2000 RPM is probably do to engine mods and needing some more timing. You have only one instance of Knock Retard so I' assuming the Knock circuit is working. Add some timing and watch for knock. I threw some timing in your bin and used the smooth tool, you can use this to see how to work a spark table. Same for VE tables.

    TunerPro Preferences and check Graph Always on Top. Then use the Compare tool to see differences in your bin Spark and VE tables to one I am uploading. For learning, not done for your engine or log but better starting point for tuning.
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    Ok thankyou. That was probably my mistake as I entered all the data to spreadsheet and from spreadsheet by hand. Also on the timing i did advance the lower rpm a little maybe a degree or 2 from about 1000 rpm to about 2400 rpm. I was concerned with going to much to fast since I'm using the the gm 193 swirl port heads. Everything I have read about those heads say not use the old standard of 36 degrees advanced above 3000 rpm's. On smoothing out the tables is there a rule of thunb to go by like always add or remove to make it a smooth transition from one to the other. All the stuff I have read and seen on tv on powerblock or similar shows, always have a nice curve or smooth transition where as my tables are pretty jagged compared to what I have seen. I tried smoothing it out once real nice and got it running to rich. I will give those timing tables a try and do another log this weekend. I probably won't have time till then to do it. Thank you for the advice and the change to bin also, very much appreciate the time it took for you.

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    Smoothing is done by the smooth tool in TunerPro. I like to take a look at wireframe and fix the big jagged edges, then go through and smooth at .5 Leave all four corners alone and it comes out very close to stock. Takes some playing with to get the hang of it. But really makes VE changes easy. Makes Spark tables more predictble.

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    Tried Smoothing VE table

    When smoothing the VE table how do you leave the four corners alone. I tried several different ways but seems to change the numbers by quite a bit when i do it. With as much as it changed the numbers I'm afraid its going to throw off the tables quite a bit. I'm assuming when you say leave the 4 corners alone you are referring to the areas of the 400rpm @ 20kpa and 100kpa, and the area of 6400 rpm @ 20kpa and 100kpa. On the outside edges it changed some as much as 9 points and some in the middle around 2 points. The outside edges it probably doesn't matter as much because engine doesn't get to those points but in the middle area is where it will run quite often is that normal. Also afterwards guessing do more datalogs and keep smoothing to get it just right. I just want to make sure so I dont throw the table way off again and have to go back to stock and start all over again.

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