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    Trying to get pre-crank injector pulses

    Hi guys,

    I read somewhere over a month ago that someone had managed to get pre crank injector pulses but I can't find the thread.

    Could someone please help me with the code or method to get a few pre crank pulses on the TBI ECM 1227747?

    Thank you.
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    A little more research... I found it looks like the pre-crank pulses were done on the second gen ECMs, '93-'95??

    Does anyone have an ECM that has the pre crank pulses, that could share a BIN code so I could try to find it and implement it in the 1227747?

    thanks!
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    You mean like a Prime pulse? All GM ECMs do that AFAIK.
    The man who says something is impossible, is usually interrupted by the man doing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Six_Shooter View Post
    You mean like a Prime pulse? All GM ECMs do that AFAIK.
    Exactly! Mine doesn't, and I have tried 3 different BCCs.

    My injectors won't pulse until it's cranking, and with the convoluted intake path of the Flathead, I would like to have some fuel sitting on the butterflies ready to get sucked in.

    Thanks!
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    The '7747 is pretty archaic and I don't think there is a prime pulse, from memory. If your injector/cu in constant is correct(very critical)...then all you should have to tailor is IAC counts during crank. I realize this is a bit vague. Bottom line is it will take a bit of work since you are starting from scratch basically. It seems like you are well on your way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by In-Tech View Post
    The '7747 is pretty archaic
    Ha! But miles ahead of a Holley 94 carb.


    Quote Originally Posted by In-Tech View Post
    If your injector/cu in constant is correct(very critical)...then all you should have to tailor is IAC counts during crank. I realize this is a bit vague. Bottom line is it will take a bit of work since you are starting from scratch basically. It seems like you are well on your way.
    Thanks Carl. Yes I have moved from 2.8L injectors to 4.3L and the math comes out to BPW of 126 for the 3.9L Flathead with BSFC of .65 and 100HP. I have played with the IAC park position but didn't realize it was that important...I will continue to fine tune it. Appreciate the info.

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