Moates Flash & Burn question (chip not blank)

[EDZIP]

I understand that I should be asking this at the Moates site..figure wouldn't hurt to ask here. Been a long time since I worked with Moates and TunerPro.

If I drop in a new chip (27SF512) into the Flash Burn, load a bin and verify the bin load....checks out!

But ...When I hit the "erase" button with the same chip...the message indicates "erase succeeded" BUT when I "check for blank" it indicates chip is not blank and I can't get a successful bin load after that.

Any ideas?

Thanks

[stew86MCSS396]

Is the chip loaded in the burner correctly? Rows of pin furthest away from the zif handle needs to be occupied. btdt

[EDZIP]

Is the chip loaded in the burner correctly? Rows of pin furthest away from the zif handle needs to be occupied. btdt

10-4.....drop in a new chip, load the modified test bin from TunerPro, loads properly, is buffer verified, can be read and sent back to TunerPro. Then when I try to erase and install the final bin...says the chip is erased..but not empty (and can't be used again).

[dave w]

There are several SST27SF512 "clones".

Often SST27SF512 "clones" won't work with the Flash & Burn.

dave w

[stew86MCSS396]

Hmmm I've never had an issue with blank check except when I used the wrong offsets???

[EDZIP]

I'll see if I have other chips to try.

[trlrider]

Call Moates Tech Support!
Do not remember the Tech guys name, but he remoted into my laptop and fixed the issue in about 2 minutes.
Had something to do with a firmware update that did not go with the burner that I had just received.
Save your time and frustration, just call Tech Support.

[EDZIP]

There are several SST27SF512 "clones".

Often SST27SF512 "clones" won't work with the Flash & Burn.

dave w

Dave...Bad Chips!...these were "new" chips I bought back in 2012 when I joined this forum. I have (2) strips of 27SF512 proms...one that I marked "Chinese" and the other without marking to indicate US based. The US chips work fine...the proms marked Chinese are the ones not working.

Can you suggest a source for quality proms?

Even tried them in my MiniPro...

Thanks
Ed

[dave w]

Moates has a page about "Fake Chips": http://support.moates.net/fake-27sf512-chips/

Moates sells 27SF512 chip that work with the Burn 2: http://www.moates.net/c2-sst-27sf512....html?cPath=26

dave w

[EDZIP]

Moates has a page about "Fake Chips": http://support.moates.net/fake-27sf512-chips/

Moates sells 27SF512 chip that work with the Burn 2: http://www.moates.net/c2-sst-27sf512....html?cPath=26

dave w

Thanks again!

[dave w]

Cloned chips work well, but the Burn 2 is not able to program the clones (or fakes as Moates calls them). Many of the chips used in car electronics and car accessories are "clones".

I use a BX32P for programming chips. https://www.newark.com/batronix/bx32...-ii/dp/53M6869

Cheap chips or clones require expensive programmers.

The BX32P is MASSIVE overkill for a single project.

dave w

[EDZIP]

FYI I also have a MiniPro TL866CS programmer (which I like & comes with many adapters)...upgraded the drivers for Windows 10. Same result - indicates chip is erased...but then shows that it's not blank.

[trlrider]

Have you called and talked with Moates tech support??
Had the same exact problem, and they fixed it in a few minutes. Since he was remoted into my laptop, I did not see everything he did, but it had something to do with the version of firmware in my tool.
Call Tech Support??

[EDZIP]

Have you called and talked with Moates tech support??
Had the same exact problem, and they fixed it in a few minutes. Since he was remoted into my laptop, I did not see everything he did, but it had something to do with the version of firmware in my tool.
Call Tech Support??

Thanks trlrider...as mentioned earlier...it was a case of bad chips.

[trlrider]