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TilmanNA
07-03-2020, 06:49 AM
Cool, Awesome SITE!!!
I found the .XDF, however I noticed in the TorquePro RT "transmission type" it stated ** this parameter should NOT be changed ** !!!
What to do?? The 411 OS 2156 PCM states it is a 4L80E, yet I would like to change it to a manual NV3500.

dave w
07-03-2020, 04:56 PM
Factory OS 2156 was either a 4.8 manual or 6.0 manual, not 5.3 manual.

dave w

dave w
07-03-2020, 05:05 PM
Factory OS 2156 was either a 4.8 manual or 6.0 manual, not 5.3 manual.

dave w


http://www.gearhead-efi.com/Fuel-Injection/showthread.php?1513-2002-TunerPro-Bin-Files
Post #9
Post #11

TilmanNA
07-03-2020, 06:42 PM
I know not what to do! Dave what should I do? Am I able to copy partial .bin files to the one I have? Is that what is called a 'segment' swap? Thanks for any and all guidance!

dave w
07-03-2020, 07:17 PM
So, I want to understand what kind of flash is needed? 5.3 Manual?

I was successful starting with a 4.8 Manual Flash and "Hand Picking" 5.3 engine parameters into the 4.8 Flash. The "Hand Picking" were displacement, Injector Parameters / Tables, Spark Parameters / Tables, and MAF Parameters / Tables. I tried segment swapping, and was not 100% satisfied with the results. The Deceleration Fuel Cutoff (DFCO) parameters for manual trans and auto trans are different. The engine segment swap will replace manual trans DFCO with auto trans DFCO. Stall Saving parameters are also replaced with a segment swap.

dave w

TilmanNA
07-03-2020, 08:54 PM
OK. I will read this 2 to 7 times to get it to soak in. HUGE THANKS!!!! SO, I have the L31 5.7, yet I need to pick the parameter files from the #11 post. I must not be understanding!, for it is a 6.0 LS engine parameters...

dave w
07-03-2020, 09:47 PM
The initial post did not mention the L31. The overwhelming number of gearhead-efi OBD2 posts are about 5.3 liters (LM7 / L59), which did not have manual transmissions from the factory.

The L31 files files from the link above will be the ones to choose from.

dave w

TilmanNA
07-03-2020, 10:30 PM
Awesomeness! Thanks! ?? Link above... Do you mean #9 or #11?

Fast355
07-04-2020, 07:44 AM
OK. I will read this 2 to 7 times to get it to soak in. HUGE THANKS!!!! SO, I have the L31 5.7, yet I need to pick the parameter files from the #11 post. I must not be understanding!, for it is a 6.0 LS engine parameters...

So your truck has a L31? I have a Green/Blue PCM file for a 2005 GMT800 Mexican L31/5spd truck.

TilmanNA
07-04-2020, 07:57 AM
Awesomeness. Yes yes, I'm putting the L31 from an 2002 1578315784Express in to my S-10 work truck and would lile to stick to the manual transmission.

dave w
07-04-2020, 06:12 PM
Long story short: I'm having a Security Key problem with my EFI Live Licensed "Mule" '0411.

The attached EFI Live .ctz might be helpful? My plan to flash the "Mule" with a .ctz then read back as a .bin (with TunerCats OBD2) is being blocked because of the Security Key. I'm not sure what has is going on, I've used the "Mule" dozens of times to flash as a .tun or .ctz then read as a .bin.

I'll try to figure things out on the cheap, but likely I need to pay TunerCats for the Security Key.

dave w

kur4o
07-04-2020, 06:24 PM
Long story short: I'm having a Security Key problem with my EFI Live Licensed "Mule" '0411.

The attached EFI Live .ctz might be helpful? My plan to flash the "Mule" with a .ctz then read back as a .bin (with TunerCats OBD2) is being blocked because of the Security Key. I'm not sure what has is going on, I've used the "Mule" dozens of times to flash as a .tun or .ctz then read as a .bin.

I'll try to figure things out on the cheap, but likely I need to pay TunerCats for the Security Key.

dave w

It looks like the eeprom area got corrupted and all the data there is defaulted to ffs.

You can try for key FFFF. If it still don`t work an lsdroid with clone flash and pin grounding will revive the pcm fully functioning.

dave w
07-04-2020, 06:51 PM
It looks like the eeprom area got corrupted and all the data there is defaulted to ffs.

You can try for key FFFF. If it still don`t work an lsdroid with clone flash and pin grounding will revive the pcm fully functioning.

FFFF failed.

Would I need to clone the exact same .ctz as a .bin for LS Droid to recover the PCM?

I rely heavily on the TunerCats OB2, and have not ventured into the LS Droid system.

At the risk of an EFI License, I'm tempted to flash the PCM using TunerCats - PCM Recovery. Thoughts?

dave w

kur4o
07-04-2020, 07:08 PM
If eeprom area is busted neither of these tools can recover it. Even factory tool. I guess efi can but at a cost of an extra license if you manage to unlock it.

The best way to recover is to use the last good full bin you have from this pcm that contain the info for the efi license.

Take that bin and clone it either with lsdroid or pcmhammer. I think pcm hammer supports avt cable but I am not sure if it will work with pin grounding. You can give it try.

In-Tech
07-04-2020, 10:11 PM
I think pcm hammer supports avt cable but I am not sure if it will work with pin grounding. You can give it try.
It will.

dave w
07-07-2020, 01:20 AM
2002 Chevrolet Express Van Manual L31 5.7L (12212156).bin file attached.

Special thanks go to http://www.gmtruckcentral.com/articles/12200411.html for posting a Base Tune 5.7L Manual Transmission file.

dave w

TilmanNA
07-08-2020, 07:01 AM
Thanks! Did you get the SECURITY key figured out?
As for me, I utilize the LS droid & Tunerpro. This is the first Experience I will have with PCM/ECM at this level. I believe I have all the needed .bin's & the matching .xdf, however I have yet to change anything over. Just gathering info and such until I feel comfortable to do what I have planned. -No vats, keep hug-a-tree features, manual, switch VIN correspondingly, and utilize E-fan controls.
My main goal is the have the 1994 S-10 work truck with a to stockish spec of a 2002 Chevy PCM. I want to be able to hook up my Autel and when it decoded the vehical, it will do so as a 94 S-10 w/ 5.7. Plus I can use the scan tool to be able to bleed my ABS! Yeap, going to remove the ABS of the 94 stock to the 02 version also. I am in the process of converting the dash & heater box to a 02 S-10 currently. Lot of spot welds!! When labor part is said and done it will be a 'plug & play!'

dave w
07-09-2020, 12:19 AM
Thanks! Did you get the SECURITY key figured out?

No, I have not.

The file posted above is the .bin file format of the file on gmtruckcentral.

dave w

TilmanNA
07-09-2020, 04:37 PM
Thanks Dave. Good read. I need to figure out how(pin) the wiring of a 96 clutch switch to the 411. I looked on my Identafix and notice the same clutch switch is use in 02 trucks. Just gotta follow the wires on the diagrams I guess.

TilmanNA
07-14-2020, 05:27 AM
Will I need to pin the PCM the same as a 02 Silverado perhaps maybe???
And some pics of the process and test fit of dash.15876158771587815879 harness build time!15880

TilmanNA
12-15-2020, 07:55 AM
Hello! I have been unsuccessful in the attempts of seeping the PCM. You mentioned the Mexican 5 speed. Is it a .bin file?

TilmanNA
08-24-2021, 10:33 PM
Hello! I am having a AWEFUL time tuning idle for this. Where could I find this Mexican .bin file to simplify my LIFE!!!!!!

TilmanNA
10-11-2022, 11:06 AM
What to do?? The (2002 Express Van) 411, OS 2156 PCM states it is a 4L80E, yet I would like to change it to a manual NV3500. The engine is a L31. I am utilizing TunerPro & OBDLink LX.
I have a .ctz file for the Mexican L31 & manual transmission, yet it seems to be no help since it is not in .bin format.
So, what can I do? Can the file be converted?

dave w
10-11-2022, 03:58 PM
The attached file is modified. The origins of the attached .bin are unknown.

Use at your own risk.

ralmo94
10-11-2022, 09:56 PM
There is an all stock 4.8 manual bin on here that's 2156, you could segment swap it over to your original bin. Is your express van bin stock?

I could do the seg swap for you if you like and post the bin here

ralmo94
10-11-2022, 10:29 PM
I seg swapped a bin for you. Both bin files show all stock in universal Patcher, I also deleted VATS.
I have included all 3 bin files, the two original and the modded one along with a log file of what was changed in the attached zip.
1847718476

dave w
10-12-2022, 02:27 AM
Detailed compare attached using TunerCats Software.