AutoProm AD channels

[Six_Shooter]

Well, I'll be getting an AutoProm soon (Great price, I couldn't pass up.), and I've been trying to find out how to set up the input side of the 3 AD channels. Seems that WBO2 is pretty easy and well documented, but I want to log other sensors as well. Specifically at this point, I'm thinking a second IAT sensor (Pre-IC), to compare inlet and outlet temps.

With the IAT sensor being a resistance based sensor, I'm thinking that I'll need to set-up a pull up resistor to 5V, on the input, but can't seem to find ANY information on how to do this, or what values to use specifically.

BTW, I can't access the moates site on my PC, due to my virus protection detecting a problem. I didn't find anything helpful when I looked through the moates site on my phone.

[EagleMark]

I am working with Craig Moates via email on how to set these three channels up with the adx built into TunerPro which is incomplete and does not work and also how to add them to existing ADX files. The document for wide band on their site worked in TP V4 but I have never got it to work in TP V5. When done I will do a write up on it.

The IAT will probably need the 5 volt reference wired just like first one but signal wire to AutoProm. All values and conversions will be the same. It's the ADX packet offset/address which is the issue we are working on.

Moates site had an issue earlier today and is now closed for maintenance?

[Six_Shooter]

Hmm, didn't know there was a problem with compatibility with TP RT V5.

I'll be a little upset if that doesn't get resolved.

[EagleMark]

I don't think it's a compatibility issue... Signals are all there in TunerPro from AutoProm, just can't get the packets right per channel? I followed directions from David and did not work, he verified it did not work on theirs at shop so he passed it on to Craig for following up. He's using my $42 adx and will have instructions to place in others as well as seperate ADX for just AutoProm.

You didn't think Moates would let us down did you? :rolleye:

[RobertISaar]

feeding a temp sensor, you can choose between a 348, 4K, 1K and maybe a 2K? at least the conversion tables for those are already known, you could use others but you would need to come up with your own normalization table.

[T2000]

Glad to hear you are working on this Mark.

I have tried almost every combo of address & offset and have been unable to get any usable data via the APU1's AD inputs :( .

Have tried ADX's from $11 $12 $BD $5D and gave up after consistently failing :mad1:

Eagerly waiting for an update on this :thumbsup:

[Six_Shooter]

I don't think it's a compatibility issue... Signals are all there in TunerPro from AutoProm, just can't get the packets right per channel? I followed directions from David and did not work, he verified it did not work on theirs at shop so he passed it on to Craig for following up. He's using my $42 adx and will have instructions to place in others as well as seperate ADX for just AutoProm.

You didn't think Moates would let us down did you? :rolleye:

While I don't have issues with Craig, I have been let down by a product he sells, but only because the original manufacturer/developer gave me a polite "goanfuckurself" when I asked for a few more simple features to be added, that only required some additions to the code and no hardware changes. I'll be making my own soon, so I can get his product out of my car.


feeding a temp sensor, you can choose between a 348, 4K, 1K and maybe a 2K? at least the conversion tables for those are already known, you could use others but you would need to come up with your own normalization table.

Are those the values used for the pull up resistors in the ECM? I was thinking about looking at the ECM schematics, to see if that would work for this.

[RobertISaar]

yes, those are the pullups used by a 7727/similar for coolant/mat/oil temps/etc. 348, 4K and 1K. i guess no 2K was used that i know of?

now you'll just need a regulated +5V source to have something for them to work with.

[EagleMark]

Six Shooter, what ADX did you want AutoProm channels in? I need one more to test!

After talking with Moates, looking at the documentation, spending many hours trying to make one channel work all I met was failure! I spent over 12 hours yesterday alone and have it figured out. All three channels working in 2 differant ADX files. So far no information I have found or was given me has been correct. The only way to get this to work with information out there would be by accident.

[Six_Shooter]

All...

More specifically All that I will ever use.

Post up what it is you did to make them work.

I haven't got my AutoProm yet, damn Paypal taking so long for a money transfer.

[EagleMark]

I will. Just waiting on a return email from Moates and TunerPro as to how they want to handle this.

[T2000]

Great News!

Thanks for your efforts Mark!!!

[T2000]

I will. Just waiting on a return email from Moates and TunerPro as to how they want to handle this.

Hi Mark! Any more progress on this?

[EagleMark]

Yeah I've been working on it in spare time for a few days, it's in the moderators forum till I can get it done, probably tomorrow morning after a good nights sleep!

Stay Tuned!

[T2000]

Yeah I've been working on it in spare time for a few days, it's in the moderators forum till I can get it done, probably tomorrow morning after a good nights sleep!

Stay Tuned!

Thanks Mark!

I'll keep my eyes open for an update - appreciate your work on this as it has been a little frustrating not having that functionality.

Cheers, Chris

[Six_Shooter]

stay tuned!

BOOOOOOO, HISSSSSSSS.... Get off the stage!!!




:p

[EagleMark]

BOOOOOOO, HISSSSSSSS.... Get off the stage!!!

:pCan I ban an Administrator? :laugh:

Someone has been watching it in the Moderator forum cause it has lots of views...

I really wanted to get this right and have at least 14 hours into testing to get it right and double checked on a 160 Baud ADX and a 8192 Baud ADX, then another 6 or so doing the writeup and verifying. So I hope it comes in handy for those that want to use it! :thumbsup:

http://www.gearhead-efi.com/Fuel-Injection/showthread.php?829-AutoProm-ADC-Interface-Channels-Set-up-in-TunerPro

[Six_Shooter]

My AutoProm is on it's way, so can't wait to try out the details in that write up. :D

[Six_Shooter]

Got my AutoProm today, I've only plugged it in to get TurnerPro to detect it, but I'm excited about using it.

I haven't seen any documentation on the Honda side of it though.

[EagleMark]

I don't think it does motorcycles or lawnmowers? :laugh:

There's a jumper inside that needs to be changed, you have to open it to see it. I've never seen anything on it either but supposed to work?

[Six_Shooter]

Yeah, I had mine open, that why how I saw the "Honda" part. ;)

There was also the 4 pin plug above the EMU cable connection, that looked Honda interface-ish to me, along with a second one inside.

I want to know what all of the connects are for! lol

[EagleMark]

I want to know what all of the connects are for! lolMe too! I've never seen any documentation on any of it?