Changing from $88 to $8D mask, bin.

[fasteddi]

Since i cannot do any more tuneing because of the winter weather, ive looked at changing my $88 mask and bin to a $8D. My car is a 1991 3.1L camaro with speed density 730 ecu 88 mask and bin.

Ive read through the info on the $8D and there is alot more tuning options that i like in there, along with alot more support for those bin's and mask. No one really seems to mod. tune the 3.1L with the 88 bin. I dot plan on turboing this car for a bit as i dont know neearly enough to do it, although i do have all the componets(except WB 02 sensor) to turbo the car.

So far i have changed the # of cylinders, idle max speed, VVS pulse, injector flow rate, and a few other things. Im sure ill have quite a few questions of how to change a value to a different value at time goes foward. I just thought id start this thread in case another six shooter f-body wanted to do this also.
:thumbsup:

[EagleMark]

Six Shooter has a Turbo on his Datson 280Z... running Code 59...

Since your going to 8D have you looked at Super AUJP? I've never done it but it's supposed to be a better $8D...
http://www.gearhead-efi.com/Fuel-Injection/showthread.php?394-1227727-1227730-ECM-Information-8D

[fasteddi]

Six Shooter has a Turbo on his Datson 280Z... running Code 59...

Since your going to 8D have you looked at Super AUJP? I've never done it but it's supposed to be a better $8D...
http://www.gearhead-efi.com/Fuel-Injection/showthread.php?394-1227727-1227730-ECM-Information-8D

Thanks! Whats the differnce between between the stock and super AUJP??? If id run $59 would it still work out ok with out a turbo?? I dont plan on doing that(turbo) till this summer at best, but dont wana switch over Bin files too times:mad1:

[Six_Shooter]

I think fasteddie was referring to his engine as a "six shooter," which is where my name mostly comes from. ;)

You shouldn't have to change much more than what you already have to get the engine running. The biggest things are cylinder count and base PW or injector size.

Differences between standard $8D vs S_AUJP? I can't honestly answer that, but I can say I used S_AUJP on a conversion of a 409 to MPFI and worked well for it. S_AUJP does have the WBO2 datalogging enabled natively, so that makes that aspect easier. I know the VE and spark tables have been extended, so that might help.

$59 will run N/A, you just won't use any of the VE or spark tables above 100 KPA, until you add the turbo. $59 also have WBO2 datalogging capability, plus WBO2 closed loop control as well.

[fasteddi]

I think fasteddie was referring to his engine as a "six shooter," which is where my name mostly comes from. ;)

You shouldn't have to change much more than what you already have to get the engine running. The biggest things are cylinder count and base PW or injector size.

Differences between standard $8D vs S_AUJP? I can't honestly answer that, but I can say I used S_AUJP on a conversion of a 409 to MPFI and worked well for it. S_AUJP does have the WBO2 datalogging enabled natively, so that makes that aspect easier. I know the VE and spark tables have been extended, so that might help.


$59 will run N/A, you just won't use any of the VE or spark tables above 100 KPA, until you add the turbo. $59 also have WBO2 datalogging capability, plus WBO2 closed loop control as well.

ok thanks for the info!!! Yea i did mean six shooter as in V6 ...opps i guess i should of clarified that. when i get to values in 8D that I dont have info on, do i just leave them blank??? Since $88 has less info and values.

[EagleMark]

Well 8D is the mask that reads the values in the bin/chip. Same for any chip if you don't know what the info/values do then leave them alone. Your going to have to change a few things to get it set for V6 in stead of V8 and 3.1L from 5.0-7L but then it's going to be just like tuning your chip in $88.

[fasteddi]

Ok im gonna try and finish setting up the ve tables/ spark tables tonight.

[RBob]

So far i have changed the # of cylinders, idle max speed, VVS pulse, injector flow rate, and a few other things.:thumbsup:

The VSS PPM is the same between the '90-'92 MPFI cars and the '90-'92 TPI cars.

RBob.

[fasteddi]

It was closes but not the same.. 4004.78/mile was mine.... and IIRC the $8D bin I had was 4008.94/mile

[Six_Shooter]

That's essentially the same. The difference is probably in the calculation used in the XDF. I also notice that whan some. Ales are saved they save as a slightly different value than input.

[fasteddi]

Ahh ok thanks!!

[fasteddi]

Any one know of a way to transfer the values from my $88 bins to the $8D bin faster then typing them all?? Expsecially the VE and SA tables.

[EagleMark]

Have your 8D bin open in TunerPro. Go to Compare and load your $88 bin and check the box. Then when you have ... no that won't work with differant masks...

Tools, Custom tools and open New TunerPro Instance. Now you have 2 TunerPros open. Open your $88 bin in one and $8d bin in other, if tables are identiacl you can click top left cell to highlight entire table and copy, same on other side and paste. If tables are differant then one line at a time...

[Six_Shooter]

Don't copy values in tables over, especially VE and spark tables. The calculations are different between differen codes, and can cause problems when swiching to a different mask.

[fasteddi]

Don't copy values in tables over, especially VE and spark tables. The calculations are different between differen codes, and can cause problems when swiching to a different mask.

Ok then how am i suppose to fill the spark and fuel tables in?? Just datalog again and slowly fix them?? Im really doubting that my cars going to run with those SA tables since they are way!!!!!different then mine, along with the VE tables.

Can I make the $8D work with a 2 or 3 bar map?? Anyone know what to change??
?

[fasteddi]

Ok well its official!!!:yikes: Im onto the turbo build. i started tearing into the exhust routing this afternoon, plan to get most of the pipe finished off from the manifolds to the turbo tommorow.

One the tuning side, i ordered a 3 bar map sensor, which i plan to use with the $59 mask. I still need to read some more about the process but as of what i see and am told it will work with my ecu with little or no repinning. So as soon as i get the 3 bar map and do a little exhaust routing, Ill then begin to transfer some info from my $88 although im sure i can scrap most of that info from logging since it was on a N/A engine. I plan to run 7psi on the car, the internal wastegate is set at 7psi, and i dont plan on getting into rasing the boost till i know i can tune it well. Rather safe then sorry when it comes to boost.:rockon:

[EagleMark]

We are having a discussion of 2 bar conversion and seems 2 bar is to much for 6 psi, so would handle 7 psi. 3 bar is going to only give you half use of table. From 0 to 50% load 2 bar would be 0 to 85% ish...
http://www.gearhead-efi.com/Fuel-Injection/attachment.php?attachmentid=1445&d=1326398851

Read here
http://www.gearhead-efi.com/Fuel-Injection/showthread.php?501-PCM-Options-for...

I don't know how much a stock bottom end can handle without forged pistons which are usually used in boosted engines. Then there's going to be a need for an oil cooler cause the turbo bearing will need lots of oil to cool it. Syntetic oil handles heat better without breaking down... just some things to think about.

:ttwwop:

[fasteddi]

Heres some pics mark(since its a tuning board, i didnt know if these pics were ok)... Keep in mind this is a little turbo for a little motor(fresh rebuild though since the turbo itself was free). Im baically doing the same set up as project89 did on thirdgen.org. So the exhaust routing is cheep and probly not the best but it will work for my first turbo. The turbospecs are t25 turbo, .49 comp .48 exh Its liquid cooled also, stock wastegate is set to 7psi, plan to turn it up alot once I know what im doing with tuning it. The turbo map says itll basically put up to 15psi(efficently) in my car displacement before it falls on its face...with it supporting about 260hp at that level. Keep in mind my car has 140hp stock and 160 mabey now with the cam and head work. It should be easily safe(with a good tune)in the lower end for 50-75or so extra hp, its all forged in there except the pistons.:mad1:

Sorry the pics are bad, i spilled rad. fluid all over...opps. I just started doing some mock up of the exhaust today.

I already ordered a 3 bar map that will work on my car, I hope that will still work ok? I read some of that thread and will contine to! Some of its a little confusing..:yikes:




http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/377800_331241966896871_100000332128461_1117947_114 4761545_n.jpg
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/395007_331242020230199_100000332128461_1117948_142 4303639_n.jpg
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/401287_331241226896945_100000332128461_1117935_956 954810_n.jpg

Sure looks like that blue board is holding the car up... thats some strong stuff...
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/384965_331241103563624_100000332128461_1117932_116 0466754_n.jpg

[Six_Shooter]

The 3 BAR MAP will work fine, especially with $59, with the extended tables.

In most cases the reduced reaolution won't be a problem or even noticed.

$59 requires a 3 BAR MAP anyway.

[fasteddi]

The 3 BAR MAP will work fine, especially with $59, with the extended tables.

In most cases the reduced reaolution won't be a problem or even noticed.

$59 requires a 3 BAR MAP anyway.

Yea thats the main reason i got the 3 bar, since I read about how you need to have one for the $59 in most cases. I figured that was the best mask/bin to go with for the 7730

[EagleMark]

I told you soon you'd be teaching me! :thumbsup:

Your having way to much fun!

[fasteddi]

I told you soon you'd be teaching me! :thumbsup:

Your having way to much fun!


Yea it is alot of fun playing with this stuff. But I doubt im teaching you, im a rookie at the ECU tuning aspect.:happy:

[EagleMark]

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What exactly is holding the car up? Your not going under there with that piece of wood holding the car up? Are you? If you are please don't! Get a jackstand...

[fasteddi]

:laugh: Thats just (blue board sheething) holding the y pipe there so that i could see how the pipeing will go and the clearence. Yes there is jack stands under the car, i got a good laugh though becuase im sure some ppl do dumb stuff like that...

[fasteddi]

Any tips on which model of the $59 bin file to start with??? One that will at least start the car and such so that i can datalog and tune the bin for the turbo?? Im sure the values of spark and fueling are worthless on my $88 bin since the VE changed and I want alot less spark(that $59 mask has alot of stuff on it) Its CONFUSING!

Thanks anyone!!:confused1:

[EagleMark]

:laugh: Thats just (blue board sheething) holding the y pipe there so that i could see how the pipeing will go and the clearence. Yes there is jack stands under the car, i got a good laugh though becuase im sure some ppl do dumb stuff like that...Yeah they do, and some live to tell about it... would like to see your survive this project! :thumbsup:

[fasteddi]

Yeah they do, and some live to tell about it... would like to see your survive this project! :thumbsup:

Dont worrie i will, what your thoughts on a $59 bin that i can use to for the initial start up when the turbo is on and complete??

[EagleMark]

I know nothing of Code 59, that's a Six Shooter topic.

[fasteddi]

I know nothing of Code 59, that's a Six Shooter topic.
Ok thanks, ill message him

[fasteddi]

Was told to look at the v4 version of the $59 bin file. So thats what im gonna get at later, Heres a pic to entertain ya...its the mock up of the routing to the turbo, i just need to shorten the pipe to the turbo and then weld it up.


http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/381076_331905876830480_100000332128461_1120368_141 5206912_n.jpg

[fasteddi]

Here ya go, some on the exhaust if finally complete.

Ive been sifting through the $59 mask and wow is there alot to look at, i have no clue on which values to mess with since there are many boost, wastgate values in the mask.

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/387790_332376873450047_100000332128461_1121641_681 957170_n.jpg

[fasteddi]

well im dedicated to the $59 mask now so ill probly be starting another thread for $58/9:rockon:

Heres the current progress....alot of charge piping and a little exhaust to go along with oil lines but im getting there.. I think im going through withdrawls from not burning chips!!!!!:mad1:
:mad1:
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/405428_336650993022635_100000332128461_1136362_385 324846_n.jpg

[JeepsAndGuns]

Guess thats one advantage of having a small engine in a big car. You have plenty of room to play with...lol

[EagleMark]

He's having way to much fun! :rockon:

Can't wait to see next years time slips! I'm thinking of putting my LT1 in a vega but there hard to find so maybe an S10...

[fasteddi]

He's having way to much fun! :rockon:

Can't wait to see next years time slips! I'm thinking of putting my LT1 in a vega but there hard to find so maybe an S10...

Yea a s10 would be sweet!! I like that idea!

Im having fun but i cant wait to get back into tuning again!!:jfj:

[fasteddi]

Heres some pics for your amusement..lol. Its not all welded.

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/404622_337553139599087_100000332128461_1139378_125 1058207_n.jpg
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/407771_337553369599064_100000332128461_1139383_293 974767_n.jpg

New pipe meets the old stuff...
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/407362_337553439599057_100000332128461_1139385_178 776727_n.jpg

[fasteddi]

Latest pics for your entertainment... Exhaust is completly finished from the block, to the turbo, the the rear of the car!! Tuning in a few weeks if all goes as planned!

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/407459_340077442679990_100000332128461_1148594_335 018119_n.jpg

Clearence suxs.. but it lost 2 1/2 inches from the stock, Thank god this isnt a daily driver!!!! The one clamp is there because its a PITA to weld the top of the one ex joint...
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/425125_340077699346631_100000332128461_1148598_102 547442_n.jpg

[fasteddi]

Ran across a REAL turbo today... just had to break down and get it. also got a wastegate for it. 187 bucks for the flanges, turbo, and the wastegate. This turbo should get me in the 14's or 13's with some slicks!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/250648441724?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

But this is only if i can tune it right!:rockon:

[fasteddi]

Heres a vid of some new parts..tuning comming very soon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B88WiaGAhcc

[EagleMark]

Nice! Your having way to much fun! :rockon:

[dave w]

Heres a vid of some new parts..tuning comming very soon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B88WiaGAhcc

Thanks for the update.:thumbsup:

dave w

[dave w]

I snapped these turbo pics with my cell phone camera a few years ago when I was at the Portland International Raceway Swap Meet. Function before Beauty!:laugh:

dave w

[93V8S10]

:laugh:

[fasteddi]

I burned a $59 starter bin and loaded it into the car today, and it has the innoying glitch. I forgot how to fix it....dont I add a pause in the ADX??

[EagleMark]

I snapped these turbo pics with my cell phone camera a few years ago when I was at the Portland International Raceway Swap Meet. Function before Beauty!:laugh:

dave wWhat the heck is that? I can't even identify engine or vehicle? Is that home plumbing pipe I see?


I burned a $59 starter bin and loaded it into the car today, and it has the innoying glitch. I forgot how to fix it....dont I add a pause in the ADX??It started as adding a pause, then was determined to need a byte added to reply, some seem to need both? You got an adx for it? Post it up and I'll see what's there and show you how to change them.

[fasteddi]

What the heck is that? I can't even identify engine or vehicle? Is that home plumbing pipe I see?

It started as adding a pause, then was determined to need a byte added to reply, some seem to need both? You got an adx for it? Post it up and I'll see what's there and show you how to change them.

Heres my ADX ive got. Thanks mark!

[dave w]

What the heck is that? I can't even identify engine or vehicle? Is that home plumbing pipe I see?

The engine is GMC 305 V6, in an early 60's pickup. The turbo is a down draft configuration, so the input air to the turbo is drawn through the carburetor. Yes, home plumbing pipe.

dave w

[fasteddi]

I tried to stop the glitch on my own but no sucess... Im hoping I can start the car up in a week to 2 at most, so I hopefully get this glitch gone!!

[EagleMark]

How do you get a glitch with car not running?

New Jersey Giants won so I can take a look at it... doesent Six Shooter run this?

[EagleMark]

Someone has a lot of work into this. But it does not have much in the commands? Does $59 have it's own ALDL file? Or does it get set to your ECM like we did the last one? That was $88 right? I wonder if it's supposed to hook up to differant ECMs differant ways?

Sorry I am $59 ileterate...

[Six_Shooter]

The code is the same, regardless of whether it is running in a '7749 or a '7730.

I can't help with the communication problems, $59 has always connected for me on both my laptop and my PC. :shrug:

[EagleMark]

Even the connection commands? His has a silence but it's not in the macro? When I did the $88.adx for his ECM it needed differant stuff? Can I see your $59 adx? I'm doing a lttie research on it...

[fasteddi]

How do you get a glitch with car not running?

New Jersey Giants won so I can take a look at it... doesent Six Shooter run this?

Im glad the giants won!!!

But anyways the aldl connects instantly with this code compared to the $88 The glistch is exactly the same one I hade before with $88.
I just turned the ignition on to see what codes the comp was telling me, and wanted to make sure that the data was being transferred well. It works great else then the glitch.
Yea sixshooter uses $59, so i poseted on code59 and if i cant stop the glitch ill pm him and see which ADX version he uses.

Thanks!!!

[EagleMark]

I was looking at it, then did some reading at code 59. Seems most of those guys are using the 7749? Which has differant ALDL base? Although your changing code in bin too there was somthing about your car ECM that needed silenced, then ask for data. The ADX you posted has a silence command, but it's wrong and not used in any connection or data, it's just a command not used.

I read a big thread over there and lot's of work but there missing a couple major points. When I have time I'll look through it again and we will do some testing again to get you going. It may help them guys get better connection because even the latest version seems to still get a glitch. We'll ger er done!

[fasteddi]

I was looking at it, then did some reading at code 59. Seems most of those guys are using the 7749? Which has differant ALDL base? Although your changing code in bin too there was somthing about your car ECM that needed silenced, then ask for data. The ADX you posted has a silence command, but it's wrong and not used in any connection or data, it's just a command not used.

I read a big thread over there and lot's of work but there missing a couple major points. When I have time I'll look through it again and we will do some testing again to get you going. It may help them guys get better connection because even the latest version seems to still get a glitch. We'll ger er done!

Thanks mark!! You know your stuff when it comes to files and tuning forsure!!!:rockon:

[EagleMark]

Thanks mark!! You know your stuff when it comes to files and tuning forsure!!!:rockon:Your overestimating my abilites. I just try hard to learn, teach back. Just part of a good team!

[fasteddi]

Your overestimating my abilites. I just try hard to learn, teach back. Just part of a good team!

Totally understand, Ive gave it a shot at trying to manipulate what you did in those $88 adx files, but i got lost and had no results...:mad1: That glitch is very innoying.. Im sure I can still do a start up even with the glitch, but I do not want to do that!!

[EagleMark]

I;ve been busy, we'll get er done! Your not ready yet are you? How long?

[fasteddi]

I;ve been busy, we'll get er done! Your not ready yet are you? How long?

Ill be ready by a week from friday, so in 1 1/2 weeks, ill have it ready to start up. Mainly because I havent gotten my SLC-diy-2 wideband in the mail yet...

[fasteddi]

Ive been playing with the ADX file again and no luck... How do i add a pause if there isnt one in the command type chooser? The only thing like pause, is command and listen for silence
??

[EagleMark]

Here's a few.

Took the one they had and opened it in notepad and it had 1000 lines of code from all the monitors and history tables and item lists before the connection commands. So only change was move commands to first in file Code-$59-V.adx

Then made a silence command, it had one but not used anywhere? FO poll usually needs a silence then ask for data... Code-$59-V1.adx

Then set things back to where the ALDL should be they were removing or shortening? Code-$59-V1.1.adx

All those seem to be used on differant ECM then yours but ALDL address are same FO poll like the Syclone and turbo Sunbird which is $58

Then did one with exact connect and monitor that worked in your car in Code $59 adx. Code-$59-V2.adx

The simplified some things... Code-$59-V2.1 and V2.2.adx

So try Code-$59-V2.adx first as that was what worked on your car with $88. Don't be afraid to connect and if bad data disconnect and reconnect. I have one like that right now I can't figure out, but it works fine second shot every time?

Try all the others, if you find they work pass them around. Seems like they were close over there but still had a glitch. I've had an account there for awhile but never posted...

[fasteddi]

I will try them out right now...Ill be back in a few

[Six_Shooter]

It may be a port setting issue of the computer itself, and not a problem with the ADX file at all.

There is information about that on TGO or the Tuner Pro forums.

[fasteddi]

WOW the ADX. V2 worked right off the bat!!!!!!!!!!!!! Im so so happy now that i can read the info and it isnt having a sezure!!!:rockon:

I will definitly share those ADX files.

Thank you so so so much man, you have no idea how much flustration you just saved me. Ive been playing with that ADX for hours and no luck, but you got it down man forsure!! Thank you!

[EagleMark]

I posted them up over at Code $59. Maybe let them know your V2 worked on your 1227730 $88 ecm in the thread I started.. I'm sure one of the others I adjusted for them will work better then what they had. Paul had a huge amount of work into that ADX. But connection commands were off...

[fasteddi]

Ok will do! Thanks again,
Tommorow I will try out the other ADX files you sent tommorow so I can tell ya which ones works, even though that V2 does work great!

[EagleMark]

Why bother? Your set. It's up to the other guys with differant ECMs to find which one works for them or if it stills needs work...

[fasteddi]

Why bother? Your set. It's up to the other guys with differant ECMs to find which one works for them or if it stills needs work...

Ok, i didnt know if ya wanted me to see if the others worked as well. I feel like i owe ya everytime you help me..LOL. becuase id be screwed if you didnt help me out.
Thanks again!

[EagleMark]

I apreciate it! I get to learn to do files on cars I don't have with good testers like you. I'd like to see one of those other guys with differat ECM try the other ones to see what worked and what didn't. Even though your all running Code $59. the ALDL is a little differant from ECM to ECM. So yours might not work on theirs, you could for kicks try the V and V1 stuff on yours?

[Six_Shooter]

I apreciate it! I get to learn to do files on cars I don't have with good testers like you. I'd like to see one of those other guys with differat ECM try the other ones to see what worked and what didn't. Even though your all running Code $59. the ALDL is a little differant from ECM to ECM. So yours might not work on theirs, you could for kicks try the V and V1 stuff on yours?

That doesn't make any sense, since I use a '7730 for bench testing and a '7749 in my car and use the same ADX file in both cases for $59.

[EagleMark]

Your 7730 does not have other modules on same ALDL line. It is just engine data, not trans, body, etc... there are 16 possibities RBob told me when a ALDL has Mode 7. His does and in the ALDL.ds file has a Mode 7 but no other information.

The ALDL.ds files from ALDLstuff zip are in order but have no directions on some like his. My LT1 was another. I did not understand them either until I read them all in order and some have instructions, then subsequint ones do not have the instructions listed again.

So need to listen... send silence command, then send get data command from proper address. I think this is proper for all ALDL data that comes from $FO which is a poll. Not needed when ALDL data is from $F4... but if no other modules are in $FO poll you can get away with just getting data.

Best as I can desribe it, not like there's a class to take to learn this stuff... read below is basics...

COMMAND ID: THIS IS THE ID OF THE NORMAL MODE MESSAGE TO BE COMMANDED BY A
MODE 7 TO THE MASTER.
LISTEN ID : WHEN THE MODE 7 IS SENT TO THE MASTER, THE MASTER TRANSMITS THE
REQUESTED NORMAL MODE MESSAGE WHICH MAY OR MAY NOT CAUSE A
RESPONSE MESSAGE TO BE GENERATED BY ANOTHER MODULE. IN ORDER TO
MAINTAIN PROPER SYNCHRONIZATION WITH TRAFFIC ON THE DATA LINK, THE
LISTEN ID SHOULD BE THAT OF THE RESPONSE MESSAGE IF ONE IS
GENERATED OR THE COMMAND ID IF NO RESPONSE IS GENERATED BY THE
NORMAL MODE MESSAGE.

[gregs78cam]

I went ahead and registered, and downloaded $59. I would really love to see a hac for this. I am trying to wrap my head around how the datastream puts the data together. guess I should check out the forum for it.

[fasteddi]

I apreciate it! I get to learn to do files on cars I don't have with good testers like you. I'd like to see one of those other guys with differat ECM try the other ones to see what worked and what didn't. Even though your all running Code $59. the ALDL is a little differant from ECM to ECM. So yours might not work on theirs, you could for kicks try the V and V1 stuff on yours?

No problem. Will do!

[EagleMark]

I should have added to reply above about mode 7 that I would really have to look a tECM number and ALDL file for 7749? that came on turbo cars to get Code $59 adx correct for there vehicles. What was years, make model that came turbo. Probably all $58 stuff...

I don't know why TPV4 and ads were so simple. But in TPV5 all 8192 baud, Pin M on ALDL which is bi directional all seem to need tweaked. 160 baud on pin E were all fine, unidirectional, read only!

[fasteddi]

Progress pics for your entertainment. Hopfully get to tune within a week!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yea! There is only a few little things i need to do but this is basically done, as for the physical parts. Tuning is gonna be the hard part..

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/419799_349586681729066_100000332128461_1171681_883 643982_n.jpg

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[EagleMark]

Tuning is gonna be the FUN part.
Fixed it for ya! :rockon:

Cool pics thanks!

[Six_Shooter]

You're overthinking the ALDL stuff. The ADX is strictly code dependant, not ECM service number dependant. Swap from $A1 to $58, use the $58 ADS/ADX, use a '7749 in place of a '7730, using $8D, use the $8D ADS/ADX (along with ALDL data pin swap, but that's strictly a hardware thing).

[EagleMark]

That's what I thought till I found different ALDL files for same masks on same cars different years or same mask different car... yes what your saying works sometimes, but not all times. There's one $6E that is simple, next year $6E is super complicated.

Like I said his car, not $88 has an extra module on ALDL line, needs a silence command then ask for data. Because of this extra module link on ALDL line is why regular adx for $59 did not work.

My LT1 car is $EE but has three modules that other LT1 cars do not. Corvette has one module other LT1 cars do not. I put a silence for all car modules and so far it works on all cars... but it has to be connected twice, haven't figured out how to work that out yet. Connect once glitch data, disconnect and re connect and solid data on three different LT1 cars?

[fasteddi]

Idle tuning is going ok, time consuming but its ok. I did play arround and did this burnout since i felt the AFR was good when i was tinkering earlier, with no spark knock(and its crappy outside). So heres a video of 7.58 PSI of boost and the highest AFR was 11.7 @ 3850RPMs/7.58PSI boost.

No more doing this though as the smoke is crazy from the tires..gotta love posi and a turbo!

Here ya go for your entertainment http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeuXQBex2OU

[EagleMark]

Fail!

Get someone to video on street and do a real one! :jfj:

[fasteddi]

Fail!

Get someone to video on street and do a real one! :jfj:

Fail?? theres like 3 inches of snow on the ground outside..:mad1: That deserves at least a (ok)...:yikes:

I just was playing arround since I felt comfortable with the tune for now, in the situation it in....

You have no idea how bad i want to do some part throttle tuning for a few days, then WOT for a bit and hopefully let her rip!

[EagleMark]

Ok your lucky it's snowing. Pass for getting it running! :thumbsup: