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xx_ed_xx
04-28-2015, 12:45 AM
Hey guys a friend of mine turned me onto this site. I just bought a 2001 HD 2500 i sold the wore out 6.0 and 4l80e. I am replacing it with an 8.1 and nv4500.
I bought the truck since I run a FB group about 8.1s and had some request for turbo kits for these engines. So i kinda need a mockup and R and D vehicle.

But I am very limited on GM tuning knowledge I have had experience with mega squirt and tuner pro using mefi burn to tune mefi 3 controllers. Mainly right now i want to get the tune changed so it will start and run. engine is bone stock.

So after i get my cables etc I am sure i will have more questions.

Skinny Pedal
04-28-2015, 01:51 AM
I can say right out of the gate non tuning wise, we have done a few of these swaps. You will need the 8.1 core support and radiator, its totally different than the 6.0. But if you are running turbos and heat exchanger or air/air you could fab it all up.

The GEN 3 0411 ecm is a great ecm for that kind of build. I have done many forced induction setups with that ecm and never had an issue. Running a custom OS will be key to allow multi Bar map sensor and proper fuel/timing control. You will also need to ditch the MAF and run speed density but the custom OS will allow that will full spark table control.

Are you keeping the stock 8.1 intake and throttle body?

xx_ed_xx
04-28-2015, 02:16 AM
I can say right out of the gate non tuning wise, we have done a few of these swaps. You will need the 8.1 core support and radiator, its totally different than the 6.0. But if you are running turbos and heat exchanger or air/air you could fab it all up.

The GEN 3 0411 ecm is a great ecm for that kind of build. I have done many forced induction setups with that ecm and never had an issue. Running a custom OS will be key to allow multi Bar map sensor and proper fuel/timing control. You will also need to ditch the MAF and run speed density but the custom OS will allow that will full spark table control.

Are you keeping the stock 8.1 intake and throttle body?

yeah rad outlets are bigger but i will retain the 6.0 rad for now and use the newer electric fans. I also have 2 1500 with 8.1 swaps. IT will be stock then modfied intake and tb etc to show people the gains from everything.

Skinny Pedal
04-28-2015, 03:05 AM
Cool, what intake do you run for the modified? Raylar?

With forced induction how much does the new intake help on the 8.1?

xx_ed_xx
04-28-2015, 03:19 AM
Cool, what intake do you run for the modified? Raylar?

With forced induction how much does the new intake help on the 8.1?

Well i own a raylar intake and i custom made one. but porting a stock intake is the best bang for your buck

My raylar before the 92 mm tb swap
http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff513/S_B0MB/Intake/2014-09-03070405_zps435d0d7e.jpg (http://s1239.photobucket.com/user/S_B0MB/media/Intake/2014-09-03070405_zps435d0d7e.jpg.html)
my first attempt at turbo manifold what is on my silver truck now
http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff513/S_B0MB/Turbo/2014-04-27133910_zps2695c23b.jpg (http://s1239.photobucket.com/user/S_B0MB/media/Turbo/2014-04-27133910_zps2695c23b.jpg.html)

silver truck
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ksjeqf5wxji8fqz/2015-02-14%2017.50.30.jpg?dl=0

Custom intake etc on silver truck
https://www.dropbox.com/s/oq9q3u76qsw8s4c/2015-01-21%2013.07.59.jpg?dl=0

Skinny Pedal
04-28-2015, 03:22 AM
You have a shot of a ported one?

xx_ed_xx
04-28-2015, 03:25 AM
You have a shot of a ported one?
bunch on my FB group https://www.facebook.com/groups/1556016757949905/

Skinny Pedal
04-28-2015, 04:35 AM
Cool, requested access. Thanks

Skinny Pedal
04-28-2015, 07:37 AM
Thanks for the add. The intake porting is awesome, you have any idea on gains? If raylar would hurry and get the whipple setup going I bet the owner of the swap we are in the middle of would buy one.

xx_ed_xx
05-05-2015, 01:27 AM
pulled my tune now i need 2001 8.1 info to convert this file

Skinny Pedal
05-05-2015, 03:47 AM
What file format you need?

xx_ed_xx
05-05-2015, 05:58 PM
got it i think let ya know in a day or 2 LOL

Blake
05-27-2015, 07:56 AM
I am getting ready to buy one of those ~$2500 8100 vortec's on ebay. Used engine that comes with the PCM.

I'm also swapping this to a nv4500 in an old Jeep.

What equipment do I have to buy in order to make this thing run? I've got an old APU moates for GM 7747 ECM and have messed with that for years. Guess I'm looking for a starter thread that shows all the stuff I need to buy in order to run a stock 8.1 in a non emissions jeep.

Skinny Pedal
05-27-2015, 08:52 AM
These are 0411 or newer multiport not TBI. You would need EFI Live, HP, Cats OBD2......

xx_ed_xx
05-27-2015, 02:23 PM
I am getting ready to buy one of those ~$2500 8100 vortec's on ebay. Used engine that comes with the PCM.

I'm also swapping this to a nv4500 in an old Jeep.

What equipment do I have to buy in order to make this thing run? I've got an old APU moates for GM 7747 ECM and have messed with that for years. Guess I'm looking for a starter thread that shows all the stuff I need to buy in order to run a stock 8.1 in a non emissions jeep.

if you want stock then the stock pcm with vats deleted is all you need you can find them for less then that as well

Skinny Pedal
05-27-2015, 06:35 PM
Very true. Complete here they go for 1-1.5k. Thats with acc drive, wiring, ecm, tac module, pedal, MAF.......

Blake
05-28-2015, 06:30 AM
how do I delete VATs? what tool do I buy?

Skinny Pedal
05-28-2015, 08:22 AM
how do I delete VATs? what tool do I buy?

Where are you located? Are you comfortable with reworking the harness? You would need either EFI Live or HP Tuners. Look to spend like $500-900 on them, depending on which one. Or you could ship out your ECM and/or harness. A few of us do that type of stuff for a living.

Blake
05-28-2015, 05:04 PM
I'll start my own thread...