1986 Camaro

[ZEDRATED]

Hi there. So I'm starting a new thread. Got my car running good but sometimes it goes either really rich or really lean after the engine light comes on. Does anyone have a really good $32B definition file? How do I get codes out of my car using tunerpro. I started off with a ACXZ bin file (87tpi 5speed) which is a $32B mask. Anyone?
Thanks

[ony]

zedrated, you might run the tune you have several cold starts and full warm ups then post a data log if the tune is drivable without really sereuse problems that will give the ecm time to change what it wants, then change things. keeping all your data logs to compare and see what the ecm is wanting to change after it has been run to where it can not correct the things it is trying to change.

[ZEDRATED]

I first want to see what code I am getting when the computer starts acting all funny. How do I get codes with tunerpro using a $32B mask? Do I need a better definition file? The $32B definition file is really plane and doesn't have much comparing to when I was using a $6E last year but my car does seen to run way better with a $32 for some reason.

[ZEDRATED]

One more question as well, what is a good AFR at WOT for a naturally aspirated car like mine, ZZ4 350 with the GM hotcam? 13:1???????

[delcowizzid]

12.5:1 full steam is allways a good mix for safety and allow for fuel system degredation over time.can you not flash out the error codes with a paperclip for now ??

[steveo]

13.1:1 would be a great WOT afr for that car if you have a trustworthy wideband, and is pretty safe.

[ZEDRATED]

I totally forgot about jumping the connector. Anyways I got trouble code 33 and 45. High Mass Air flow circuit high and O2 rich. I will post the bin file on here probably tomorrow night. My car is making a lot of power and feels good at wot, going about high 12-13 AFR so I think it's set good at wot. I don't know why the light is coming on though. Again I'll post the bin so you guys can have a look. Thanks.

[ZEDRATED]

Any other program or easy way to read the codes with the lap top? How is it done in tunerpro with the $32B mask???

[ony]

zedrated I don't think 32b has the code retrieving capability . it is in items on other ads files. I down loaded 32b and I did not see it no where but iam not fulmilure with the 165 ecms.mybe some one that is will reply shortly.

[ZEDRATED]

Any other program available to retrieve codes with the ALDL cable?
Also, in $32B is there anyways to get the cold start a bit richer. Now that I have the TPIS mini ram I do not have the 9th injector and I have to crank it a few times before it starts when it is cold, even around 20 degrees. When the engine is even a little warm it fires up with just a touch of the key.

[ZEDRATED]

Anyone?

[ony]

was looking and that6 e adx file has trouble code capability, I would done load it and get a data log.after you install 6 e,go to acusition and inable the moniters,dash ,data list all 4 at the bottom of acusition list when it is open.

[ZEDRATED]

But 6E won't work with my bin.

[ZEDRATED]

Anyways, I just flashed the codes out with the jumper on A and B.
I had a circuit high MAF code and a Rich code. I cleared the codes and drove the car and I only have a rich code coming up now once and a while. Right now I want to fix the cold start first. What table(s) can I adjust to get more fuel on cold starts in $32B?

[ony]

I didn't know that it wouldn't work. iam not up on the165 ecm on a 747 you would change crank afr ratio. if you have a slightly under charge battery or a starter dragging a little it will have to crank longer to start , hot or cold. iam not saying that is what is happening.

[ZEDRATED]

I didn't know that it wouldn't work. iam not up on the165 ecm on a 747 you would change crank afr ratio. if you have a slightly under charge battery or a starter dragging a little it will have to crank longer to start , hot or cold. iam not saying that is what is happening.

battery charge is good and I don't believe the $32B has a crank AFR table.

[ony]

I was looking at 32b there is 3 thing that could affect your starting but the definition file lists them as n/a . crank fuel mutiplyer vs paluse,crank fuel pulse width vs coolent temp,crank fuel pulse with vs tps. they are at the bottom of tables in tuner pro. your tuner might be able to change them or some one here on gear head. zedrated you can change them tables I forgot how to use tp.right clic the table click edit table you have too shorten your adx screen the tables appear behind it.

[ZEDRATED]

I was looking at 32b there is 3 thing that could affect your starting but the definition file lists them as n/a . crank fuel mutiplyer vs paluse,crank fuel pulse width vs coolent temp,crank fuel pulse with vs tps. they are at the bottom of tables in tuner pro. your tuner might be able to change them or some one here on gear head. zedrated you can change them tables I forgot how to use tp.right clic the table click edit table you have too shorten your adx screen the tables appear behind it.

I'll have a look when I get a chance but I'm not sure how to edit the ADX file and I'm pretty sure $32B doesn't have all three of those tables.

[ony]

you will be editing the program on your chip,you shorten the adx page by getting about the top of it left click hold and drag the page down the right clicked ,edit , table file will appear in the blank screen of your adx side of tp. it is the same as when you edited bpw only you are editing a different table.

[ZEDRATED]

you will be editing the program on your chip,you shorten the adx page by getting about the top of it left click hold and drag the page down the right clicked ,edit , table file will appear in the blank screen of your adx side of tp. it is the same as when you edited bpw only you are editing a different table.

im still not sure what you mean. If those tables don't exist in $32B what do you mean?

[ony]

they do exist you open them in the xdf file to edit them,the adx just says the parimaters are not available.dragging the adx page half way done lets you see the file after you have opened it with the xdf.

[ZEDRATED]

they do exist you open them in the xdf file to edit them,the adx just says the parimaters are not available.dragging the adx page half way done lets you see the file after you have opened it with the xdf.
Would you be able to make me a new definition file and post it here for $32B? In the same way can you add trouble codes to the definition file?

[ony]

I cant stevo could but it is very time consuming,if you post your bin file that you are running I will change pulse with verses coolent temp, 10% increase should show a change ether for better or worse.

[ZEDRATED]

Ok, thanks, I'll post it later tonight when I get home. Maybe you can look at what he did with it compared to the stock bin and see what you think as well.

[ZEDRATED]

I cant stevo could but it is very time consuming,if you post your bin file that you are running I will change pulse with verses coolent temp, 10% increase should show a change ether for better or worse.

here is the bin

[ony]

I changed the crank pulse width vs coolent temp by 7.15 it should be enough to show if it helped or not.

[ZEDRATED]

I changed the crank pulse width vs coolent temp by 7.15 it should be enough to show if it helped or not.

Hey there. Thanks for your time but I actually increased all the values in the colder ranges by about 15% in the crank pulse width vs coolant temp and the thing fires up beautiful now.
So glad that it was that easy. Thanks again.

[ony]

glad it worked for you, you might read egale marks thread about smoothing timming tables I don't know about tunning 165 ecms I did see 6 different pulse width tables in your file and they might benefit being smooth also?

[ZEDRATED]

I'm not sure how to adjust any of those tables.
what do you mean by smooth?

[ony]

I think it is in tuner pro talk, egale mark wrote a thread about smoothing tables, if you try a search at the top right of the page it should come up. I did mean you had a problem usally any table spark , fuel, will be better after it is smoothed out.