Group Buy for LS1 Flash Tool AVT 852 cable!

[EagleMark]

Starting a list for Group Purchase of AVT-852 cable needed for the LS1 Flash Tool. For more information follow this thread:
http://www.gearhead-efi.com/Fuel-Injection/showthread.php?2073-LS1-Flash-Tool-Released

If anyone is seriously interested in the purchase of cable? $300. Start a list here. I need five pre-paid orders to get started!

When we get 5 then either PayPal or mail me a check so I can get the order in, shipped to me and then reshipped back out. They will not drop ship.

1. Six Shooter
2. Lextech
3. mechanicman
4. roby
5. Skinny Pedal
6. Munchies

[Lextech]

I'm in. Let me know where to send PayPal and the total.

Jeff

[mecanicman]

Put me on the list, Ill paypal when you hit 5.

[EagleMark]

OK, that's three! :jfj:

[roby]

Add me to the list please

[EagleMark]

OK, that's four! :jfj:

[roby]

Will these have the analog inputs (ADC?)

[roby]

How does this interface differ from the unit available from tunercat?

[EagleMark]

How does this interface differ from the unit available from tunercat?It will have AD inputs!


Will these have the analog inputs (ADC?)D'oh!

[roby]

TC's also have the analog inputs along with USB and OBD2 cables, for considerably less $

[roby]

At least from the picture, looks to have analog ports.

[roby]

Just always looking for a BBD, do want to support the cause though.

But if we can utilize someone else's already discounted deal, why not.

Would rather funnel the difference to the guys (you, antus, dimented, etc.) doing the development.

[EagleMark]

At least from the picture, looks to have analog ports.The 2 I have do not. But can send them to AVT and have them added.

These already have them.

[roby]

Come on #5........

[Fast355]

Come on #5........

I want to be #5 something terrible but changing jobs and being careful on my expenses.

[Six_Shooter]

Just to be 100% sure this will be compatible with the new LS1 flash tool that the boys across the big ond are working on correct?

This will also allow tuning of an '0411 PCM?

[EagleMark]

Just to be 100% sure this will be compatible with the new LS1 flash tool that the boys across the big ond are working on correct?

This will also allow tuning of an '0411 PCM?Yes of course! I've already been using it as well here on the bench flash with this cable.

No tuning, just flashing. Download the LS1 FlashTool and try it!

[JeepsAndGuns]

I would really like to be #5, as I am wanting to convert my 401 to run on a 411 and am really excited about this.
The only thing stopping me right now, is that the software is not actually out yet. Once its out, tested, bugs worked out, and 100% operational, then I will start my parts collecting, researching, asking questions and then buy the cable/software.

[EagleMark]

I would really like to be #5, as I am wanting to convert my 401 to run on a 411 and am really excited about this.
The only thing stopping me right now, is that the software is not actually out yet. Once its out, tested, bugs worked out, and 100% operational, then I will start my parts collecting, researching, asking questions and then buy the cable/software.Heck we are still working on OBDI files? :laugh:

[antus]

just a note that jaymes avt adx has just been updated because he has figured out dynamic pids. big logging speed increase.

http://pcmhacking.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=2314&start=10#p36519

[JeepsAndGuns]

Heck we are still working on OBDI files? :laugh:

Yea, I see your point. Guess I should say, once its out and working. Once its released and working, will be the start. I will then start collecting parts (harness, pcm, sensors, coils, etc..) while trying to find the best parts vs prices (probably a blend of JY and ebay) Then I will need to buy, mod, and mount the trigger wheel and crank sensor, then last will be the cable and tuning software. So if the program was released tomorrow, it could very well be next year before I get to the point of actually doing the swap.

[mekkis]

I wouldn't mind a backup - unsure if my RR ownership allows a second cable purchase via Moates/TC. Not sure the funds allow it right now due to christmas coming up and all, but I forwarded this link to two bright young dyno operators who would find use in it.

[roughneck427]

I wouldn't mind a backup - unsure if my RR ownership allows a second cable purchase via Moates/TC. Not sure the funds allow it right now due to christmas coming up and all, but I forwarded this link to two bright young dyno operators who would find use in it.


you can buy the TC dealer kit which comes with a cable for $300

[EagleMark]

I bought a second one with my RR TC OBDII.

But still going to get one of these because they come with the AD inputs for Wide Band data.

[mekkis]

you can buy the TC dealer kit which comes with a cable for $300

Good to know, thank you.

I'm not super concerned with the ADs, I have HP/EFI, and a wideband on my dyno. It *is* the smart move for someone just wanting to get into 411s now, with potential to grow, however.

[dually681]

I bought a second one with my RR TC OBDII.

But still going to get one of these because they come with the AD inputs for Wide Band data.

if you have an extra tunercat cable i will gladly buy it off ya.. =)

[EagleMark]

if you have an extra tunercat cable i will gladly buy it off ya.. =)You can add your name to the group buy and Poof! You'll have one! :thumbsup:

Plus be eligible to buy LS1 flash when finished!

[Hog]

You can add your name to the group buy and Poof! You'll have one! :thumbsup:

Plus be eligible to buy LS1 flash when finished!
For some reason Im betting that he doesnt want JUST the TC2 cable.

peace
Hog

[Munchies]

I am in but I dont have the cash till Jan 15. Ugh...

[EagleMark]

Then it could be an order of 6! So eveyone start putting your money together. Tomorrow I will PM each a PayPal address.

[Skinny Pedal]

Sign me up!! Been lurking in the shadows and am really excited to see this.

[EagleMark]

PMs went out to 6 people,
1. Six Shooter
2. Lextech
3. mechanicman
4. roby
5. Skinny Pedal
6. Munchies Jan 15th

If anyone else wants in on first order let me know!

[mecanicman]

I will get paypal sent tomorrow. Would like to hear from antus, make sure its still a go.

[riwright]

Wow, sorry to chime in at the last minute. New to forum (as in: first post right now!). Interested in interface cable for interfacing with Chevy L33 EMC. I think my needs are the same as the group here. Is it too late to get in with the group buy? Can one of you fellas provide a cost estimate?

I know your plans are looming and I have no intention of slowing down the process. I'll be checking e-mail regularly about this group buy.

Thanks,
Rick

[roughneck427]

if we have a TC2 cable already can we still buy LS1flash when its released?? Right now I have 3 AVT852 boxes and 1 AVT 841

[mecanicman]

I just sent my money, anyone else done it yet?

[EagleMark]

Just waiting on one more.

[delcowizzid]

if we have a TC2 cable already can we still buy LS1flash when its released?? Right now I have 3 AVT852 boxes and 1 AVT 841

yes you can use your AVT852 and yes you can buy the software when the time comes without having to buy another cable

[EagleMark]

Still waiting for one payment?

If anyone else wants in? Last chance! Order is going in tomorrow morning.

[Six_Shooter]

Hey Mark, I won't be able to get the money to you that soon. Probably later this week, since I've convinced the GF to buy this for me for Christmas.

[EagleMark]

Somehow I will get you covered. Good GF you got there! :thumbsup:

[Munchies]

Waiting for someone to buy one of the firearms I have for sale so I can buy this, and some 411 swap supplies.

[EagleMark]

Cables were ordered a few days ago and he did not have enough in stock so built a few. They were shipped to me today. When I get them I will re-box and ship USPS Priority... except for Six Shooter because he is in Canada so I'll have to figure that one out?

[Buzz]

Regular USPS shipping to Canada is very good, and always arrives quickly - it is my preferred method. Next best option is FedEx (faster, but a little more money). Stay away from UPS for shipments to Canada ... they nickel and dime the recipient to death.

[mecanicman]

I am a Canuck too! Let me know about shipping, if I have send you a little extra so be it. USPS for sure way to go

[EagleMark]

Do I have to go to Post Office and fill out forms like I did for Europe once? Or can I do it USPS Prioroity? I print out the postage from my account on-line and stick it on a box and they even pick up from my porch next day.

Oh, I see Buzz says FedEx, they are very easy for me close by.

[Buzz]

Hi Mark ... USPS is the best all round option if possible (quick and cost effective). No extra paperwork that I have ever seen. They hand off to Canada Post at the border. Everything that does not weigh a lot that I order from Summit ships USPS.

[JeepsAndGuns]

I have shipped to canada a couple times. Nothing really hard. IIRC, there is a small little customs form you have to fill out stating whats in it and whatnot, then its on its way.
Though I do not know for sure, but if I had to guess, I would bet the post office would be more reasonable on shipping than fedex. Both times I have shipped up there it was through the post office. I think I have even shipped something to france before.

[babywag]

Do I have to go to Post Office and fill out forms like I did for Europe once? Or can I do it USPS Prioroity? I print out the postage from my account on-line and stick it on a box and they even pick up from my porch next day.

Oh, I see Buzz says FedEx, they are very easy for me close by.

USPS for small stuff to other countries!! I've shipped all over the world using them no issues, and always cheaper!
FedEx/UPS stupid expensive.
You can use the online USPS site, and even schedule a pickup they will come to you now.

[EagleMark]

Haven't got them yet? Still waiting for one payment?

Since it's the 21st I doubt they will be received for Christmas though... sorry...

[mecanicman]

Who are we waiting on?

[Six_Shooter]

That would be me, I need to figure out how to get Mark the Payment, yeah, yeah Paypal, but it's not on the electronic end...

[EagleMark]

Cables are in!

I do have one extra but must PayPal payment today!

[mecanicman]

PM sent

[Buzz]

Cables are in!

I do have one extra but must PayPal payment today!

Hi Mark,

If it starts to look like you may get stuck with that additional cable, I can justify purchasing another spare. You do a lot for the folks on this Forum - but funding software development should be a shared responsibility.


Cheers,
Buzz

[Munchies]

Eaglemark, you have a cable for me? I can come up with some dough

[EagleMark]

I do have one available but have missed a couple posts. I never received a PM from mecanicman and I believe Buzz was just being kind and does not really need it, but if he does it is his. If not it's yours.

I posted that I have an extra and needed money today to free up the little extra money I had on Christmas to cover this order. But still have not been paid, which left me in a very dire situation this month. Health insurance, copays and medical costs this year have wiped me out.

So decide who get's it and I will send my PayPal address via PM.

I can always order more as we get another group together. AVT has leaned up on requirements for me after this first order.

[mecanicman]

I never received a PM from mecanicman and I believe Buzz was just being kind and does not really need it, but if he does it is his. If not it's yours.

Sure you did, you even responded! Was just my shipping info.

[EagleMark]

Shows you how well I am thinking lately...

[Munchies]

Ok, I am a little more flexible now. Buzz, what do you say?

[Buzz]

Gentlemen ... Mark wanted the cable to be sold a week ago ... he used his own funds to make the first "group" purchase happen.

If either of you are in the position to purchase it IMMEDIATELY, then go ahead. If not, I will take it (it would become the third one that I have). I don't mind having another spare, and it would get written off at tax time anyway.

[EagleMark]

Sure you did, you even responded! Was just my shipping info.


Ok, I am a little more flexible now. Buzz, what do you say?I've got four payments and I know who 3 of them are so I'm guessing Andrew F****** is roby?

If so then Munchies can PayPal me and this order of five will be done.

[EagleMark]

Sure you did, you even responded! Was just my shipping info.


Cables are in!

I do have one extra but must PayPal payment today!


PM sentWhen you posted this it confused me as I thought you were answering my post, but you had already paid!

[Munchies]

Hope it all works out. Jumping in knee deep. Hva e 96 Vortec 454 I am going to convert to 411.

What software have folks gotten to work with avt cables besides ls1flash. Obviously tunercats but afaik you cant get a liscence unless you buy a roadrunner. Jet bleh. The avt can abviously talk to and has native support for the 96-97 black box ecms. It would be great if ls1flash could read and write to them. Be nice to work on a tune before I swap over so then I can copy my tables and have a real good baseline...

Atleast that is my thinking.

I know a lot about diesel gensets, guns, and women, but not much about tuning :)

[Lextech]

My cable came today.

Jeff

[mecanicman]

I got an email today saying mine had arrived to the border, have to go pick it up next week.

[Munchies]

Played around with DST and have a copy of westers garage branded tunercats as well. Was hoping the demo version of cats would have reading or writing capability but not so much. Anxiously awaiting the ls1 flash write ability.

Anyone know what tunercats does to communicate with 96-97 black box ecms that nothing else will?

[Hog]

Played around with DST and have a copy of westers garage branded tunercats as well. Was hoping the demo version of cats would have reading or writing capability but not so much. Anxiously awaiting the ls1 flash write ability.

Anyone know what tunercats does to communicate with 96-97 black box ecms that nothing else will?
Tunercats doesnt read or write, it's accompanying program Winflash does.

The Wester stuff you have, is it GMT or Diesel. Pretty expensive to get into the Wester stuff if you have to pay for it. The full GMT-2 is $7399 IIRC. Good vehicle support though, 6.5 TD, Duramax, Northstar, Shelby etc.. http://westersgarage.eidnet.ca/DPS-LS1coverage.html

He also sells TC vdf's as well.
John's Tunercats support is excellent, an excellent businessman, and doesnt have a fat head like a lot of self professed tuners do.

peace
Hog

[EagleMark]

Played around with DST and have a copy of westers garage branded tunercats as well. Was hoping the demo version of cats would have reading or writing capability but not so much. Anxiously awaiting the ls1 flash write ability.

Anyone know what tunercats does to communicate with 96-97 black box ecms that nothing else will?TunerCat WinFlash OBDII does do the 96-97 as well as 98-00 Vortec Black Box.

I've tested the 96-97 Vortec with LS1 Flash and does not work at this time, well parts do. But antus has said the software will always be in development for new PCMs after the most obvious need is taken care of.

I was informed there are other Read-Write software besides LS1 Flash being developed for AVT cables... no I don't know anything else...

[Munchies]

Antus's tool seems most promising. I would love to help, possibly through donation if need be. A straight FLASHING tool with the best PCM compatibility available will sell like hot cakes so it can be made affordable. I think I saw "$100" thrown out there.
If it did all GM OBDII up untill the CAN stuff it would be GREAAAT.


Can't wait for the overpriced tuner co's start squirming.

I havent called Tunercats CS yet, but as I understand it now Winflash OBD II wont be sold separately. All I want is flashing and reading :popcorn:

[EagleMark]

Well if you look at DelcoHacking.com and see how involved he is? It will be done! Actually it has been done but with some software illegalitys and his product software is all original!

WinFlash OBDII cable and software is only available to people with licensed TunerCat OBDII software. If it were available no one would be going through this trouble of writing new software!

[Munchies]

Thats what I had figured on Winflash. Can't wait for the next ls1flash update :)

[geep]

I have no experience personally but this forum says the avt boxes work with a lot of different commercial products already in the market
http://rivperformance.editboard.com/t10255-alternative-to-dhp-advanced-vehicle-technologies

http://www.grandamgt.com/forum/showthread.php?t=89303 (http://rivperformance.editboard.com/t10255-alternative-to-dhp-advanced-vehicle-technologies)

[geep]

This might be interesting for some http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/diy-prom/696609-houston-we-have-reflash.html