LS1 Flash Tool Released [Archive]

antus

07-19-2013, 08:27 AM

I have just released a read only version of my LS1 flash tool here:

https://pcmhacking.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3111

Write is in development, details are in that thread. More features will be added over time. You do not need to be a member of pcmhacking.net to read and download. I will subscribe to this thread here and monitor it for feedback also. Let me know what you think!

EagleMark

07-19-2013, 08:44 AM

Been working well, I've used it on three differant PCMs on the bench with varios OS!

Great work Antus! Sign me up for the write version! :thumbsup:

Lextech

07-19-2013, 02:21 PM

I own 3 Tunercat and 2 EFILive units and I am still in for this. Count me in for a purchase.

Jeff

RobertISaar

07-19-2013, 06:26 PM

as long as read/write capability for other PCMs is possible/left open, i'm in when the low-cost cable becomes available.

00fxd

07-19-2013, 07:03 PM

Grade 1 question here ... "LS1 Flash Tool" ... Will this function only on specific LS1 pcm or does work on most common OBDII ecms?

Scott68B

07-19-2013, 08:07 PM

Count me in for a cable and the full blown 'write' software when they are available.

EagleMark

07-19-2013, 08:13 PM

as long as read/write capability for other PCMs is possible/left open, i'm in when the low-cost cable becomes available.

Grade 1 question here ... "LS1 Flash Tool" ... Will this function only on specific LS1 pcm or does work on most common OBDII ecms?It is capable of others and will be upgraded as time allows.

Robert, do you have a bin for these? If so post it up here or over at DelcoHacking for Antus.

EagleMark

07-19-2013, 08:15 PM

Antus has offered GearHead-EFI.com to be the USA reseller of software and cables. We will be working on details and costs to get everyone going. :rockon:

JeepsAndGuns

07-20-2013, 04:34 AM

This is sweet! The 411 pcm my yet be in my grasp.
I am definately keeping a close eye on this project.

34blazer

07-20-2013, 05:04 AM

awesome!

antus

07-20-2013, 01:03 PM

Lextech

07-20-2013, 02:30 PM

Has anyone with a avt cable other than eaglemark had a chance to try it?
I tried it with the newer style Tunercat Can unit (AVT 852) and read out the .bin and then just to try it out, I changed the VIN in the PCM. The VIN change seemed to be instantaneous which surprised me. It worked PERFECTLY. Can the Seed/Key be displayed like the VIN and PCM serial number are? I think that would be a neat feature.

Jeff

antus

07-20-2013, 02:53 PM

Good to hear :) The key is logged if you scroll back in the info window a couple of lines. I can add the seed if its useful.

Lextech

07-20-2013, 03:34 PM

The key is logged if you scroll back in the info window a couple of lines.

Hhmmm, I'm not seeing it for some reason. I see the:
1. OSID
2. Cal ID
3. PCM Serial Number
4. VIN
5. BCC (Broadcast Code?)

I am an EXTREME Noob and Novice at this level. If it is there--Please forgive me and point me in the right direction.

Jeff

antus

07-20-2013, 04:54 PM

Yeah not there, after you hit read its in the detail log box down the bottom, but scrolls out of view. Ill update the interface in the next version.

Buzz

07-23-2013, 04:25 PM

Has anyone with a avt cable other than eaglemark had a chance to try it? Its the same cable as tunercat uses for obd2 and I think there are a number of them around, but more in the USA than Australia. I expect it to be widely compatible but am looking forward to hearing how people go with it.

I had a little free time the other day - so I gave it a go. I selected four 512KB PCMs from inventory - two with Service Number 09354896 (one with a 1999 OS, the other with a 2000 OS), and two with Service Number 12200411 (one with a 2001 OS, the other with a 2002 OS).

Each PCM was read with: PCMHacking.net software, TunerCat, HP Tuners, and EFILive (twice - once with V7.5 software, once with V8 software).

The PCMHacking.net software had very respectable read times (see attached PDF chart), and saved a *bin which was readable by the other softwares - therefore in no way corrupt.

The only minor issues (which are more aesthetic in nature than functional) were that the PCMHacking.net software identified all of the PCMs as being 12200411 variants, and indicated that all of the PCMs were locked (which technically they are, by the OEM - however most tuning software with this parameter use it to indicate a tuner lock / custom lock of some sort).

Awesome work Antus !

Attached is a PDF chart of areas I examined, and the results between the various software.

Playtoy_18

07-23-2013, 05:05 PM

I still have my original serial tunercat cable,I'll download and bench test a few pcm's from the shelf as well and try it out.Game changer for the licensing scammers imo.
Between TP and tiny tuner that should cover the LS and V6 market for tuning without license's at least up till 2004ish?
Now just need some more definition/ADX files onhand.
With all the "spare" time I could spend in front of a computer I wish I could figure out how to make the def/adx files myself to help out.

1project2many

07-23-2013, 09:33 PM

Will this software make attempts to communicate with GM PCM's that are not distributed through GM North America?

JeepsAndGuns

07-24-2013, 02:38 AM

Game changer for the licensing scammers imo.

I'm just hoping the big companies that do this, do not try and use their money to stop this software from being released.
Ever since I saw this thread, I have been really excited.

antus

07-24-2013, 03:54 AM

Buzz: thanks for the detailed level of testing, much appreciated. I dont think there is a way to get the pcm service number from the pcm, so to properly identify a 9354896 pcm I will need to create a list of OEM service numbers to OSID. The actual pcms arnt any different, and the operating systems are interchangeable. Especially as I start supporting 1mb pcms I'll need to do this.

1project2many: It will attempt to communicate with any VPW pcm. There is nothing different about the 12200411 and 9354896 pcms distributed in different parts of the world, and I am in australia developing against aussie vehicles. Even unsupported VPW pcms should display info, and depending how similar to the '0411 they are they might read or might not. I have been advised that LB7 duramax OSID 15189044 and 3904405 DO read. Possibly others but I will need OSIDs to whitelist them. This was just a fluke though, I dont have intention to support write on those yet as I have never even seen one. Maybe one day, though.

roughneck427

07-24-2013, 04:11 AM

antus

07-24-2013, 04:36 AM

good to see your here :)

Buzz

07-24-2013, 05:09 AM

... I dont think there is a way to get the pcm service number from the pcm, so to properly identify a 9354896 pcm I will need to create a list of OEM service numbers to OSID. The actual pcms arnt any different, and the operating systems are interchangeable. Especially as I start supporting 1mb pcms I'll need to do this ...

Agreed ... EFILive and HPT don't list the PCM Service Number for this very reason. TC does, but via an extensive look up table - which is linked to the OS used, but not to any hardware detected - a 2002 OS flashed into a 09354896 PCM will be inaccurately displayed as a 12200411 PCM.

My 2 cents ... simply remove this displayed parameter from your software (like EFILive and HPT have opted to do).

1project2many

07-24-2013, 02:37 PM

1project2many: It will attempt to communicate with any VPW pcm. There is nothing different about the 12200411 and 9354896 pcms distributed in different parts of the world, and I am in australia developing against aussie vehicles.

Very good. I'll have to get it wired up and see what happens. It's not even listed as a GM PCM in North America but it's definitely a Delco controller. You guys might have a similar controller in the Daewoo J150 w/2.0.

I dont think there is a way to get the pcm service number from the pcm

The "service number" is the current part number and based on GM's parts history it's subject to change. I'd be surprised if that data's included in the pcm.

so to properly identify a 9354896 pcm I will need to create a list of OEM service numbers to OSID.
The US EPA and some states use a list of CALID, Application, and PCM Service Number to determine whether or not the vehicle has been tampered with (under EPA definition). If you can find the data, you'll have a very thorough list to work with.

mekkis

07-25-2013, 08:49 PM

Playtoy_18

07-26-2013, 10:50 PM

Downloaded on my shop computer,unzipped but getting this error when I click on program.
I'm using Windows XP pro sp3,haven't tried on my laptop but didn't really plan to (win7 and have to use a serial convertor).

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p275/edwinleahy/20130726_144124_zpsc4c456b4.jpg (http://s130.photobucket.com/user/edwinleahy/media/20130726_144124_zpsc4c456b4.jpg.html)

antus

07-27-2013, 03:07 AM

"The application failed to initialise properly 0x0000135". This means your machine does not have the microsoft .net framework on it. There is a link to the download it from microsoft in the software release thread on PCMHacking.net

roughneck427

07-27-2013, 04:15 AM

Seed 4BD2 Key 6B9F

antus

07-27-2013, 05:06 AM

thanks, will have a look at it.

Have released V1.02, with support for 1MB PCMs. Testing reports welcome.

Lextech

07-27-2013, 05:14 PM

Have released V1.02, with support for 1MB PCMs. Testing reports welcome.

I updated to V1.02 and just read a 2007 LS1b 1mb PCM. Works PERFECT. Thank you for the update and the SEED/KEY addition.

Jeff

Playtoy_18

07-28-2013, 10:47 AM

Okay,finally got a chance to try it out.
No issues on an 0411,a V6 pcm didn't unlock but did read cal/OS info iirc.
I did want to post up that this will not work using an AVT-838 though.
I got my AVT boxes mixed up,really wanted to keep my old serial box hooked up to my shop computer/bench harness.
But the old box wouldn't reset/initialize using this tool.
The new USB 85x box hooked right up and no issues though.

I still have a couple pcm's to run through,and i'll post up the info from them as well as the V6 pcm that didn't work.
(it's one of the bastard 98's)

antus

07-28-2013, 03:42 PM

Ive updated to v1.03, added some more duramax osids, fixed the user key function, and fixed the handling of a seed response asking the tool too delay and retry.
Theres not much I can do to support the AVT-838 as I dont have one and I cant justify the time it'll take, sorry.

T-Rex

07-28-2013, 03:47 PM

A tool that would allow you to edit the CVNs back to stock would be awesome.

antus

07-28-2013, 04:26 PM

If you mean something that can fudge the tune to make the data match the original checksum, then sorry no. A flash tool should not edit the tune, only read and write what you supply.

antus

07-29-2013, 11:22 AM

v1.04 has been released. A few fixes for LB7 duramax.

mekkis

07-29-2013, 04:48 PM

thanks, will have a look at it.

Have released V1.02, with support for 1MB PCMs. Testing reports welcome.

Excellent. Will update shortly.

Lextech

08-02-2013, 05:38 AM

I updated to V1.02 and just read a 2007 LS1b 1mb PCM. Works PERFECT. Thank you for the update and the SEED/KEY addition.

Jeff

I may have spoke too soon. I tried to open that bin in Tunercat and EFILive and HPTuners and it won't open---says it is corrupt. So, I read the same PCM out in Tunercat and saved it as .bin. Then I opened it in HexWorkshop and did a compare. The LS1Flash bin only went up to address 80000

antus

08-02-2013, 05:49 AM

Whats the OSID and the Service number of that pcm? I added the OSIDs for the 1Mb PCMs that I knew about but it looks like there are more to add.

Lextech

08-02-2013, 06:00 AM

Whats the OSID and the Service number of that pcm? I added the OSIDs for the 1Mb PCMs that I knew about but it looks like there are more to add.

It is a 2004 calibration with OSID# 12587603. I didn't make the last post as a complaint. I am very excited about your Flash Tool.

Jeff

antus

08-02-2013, 07:38 AM

Ok thanks for that. Appreciate the info, I dont have one of those PCMs so its your report that gets it added. Ive attached a 1.05 beta to this post (will remove it later). It has that pcm type included as a 1Mb, if you can test and let me know that would be great.

Write is still progressing, too, and things are looking good.

edit: beta removed

Lextech

08-02-2013, 02:18 PM

I just tried to read with V1.05. When I click on "Identify PCM" I get an error message "Failed to Read Block10"
Here is the .bin from that PCM read out with Tunercat. It is a 2007 PCM #12602801 with a 2004 calibration OSID #12587603

Jeff

antus

08-02-2013, 02:50 PM

Is the connection to the pcm ok, ignition power on? Thats what it'll say if it can talk to the avt but the pcm isnt replying (block 10 is the first thing it tries to read).

Lextech

08-02-2013, 03:12 PM

I just got into work. I won't be able to check it for about 10 hrs. I will try it again tonight.

Jeff

Lextech

08-03-2013, 03:19 AM

V1.05 works great. The problem was on my end----Sorry about that. I did have a bad connection. A connector was not fully seated.

Jeff

antus

08-03-2013, 03:32 AM

Excellent, thanks for the report :rockon:

I think I might add a usability tweak and put an error about check your connections in, instead of just "failed to read block 10" which is not so clear.

EagleMark

08-15-2013, 09:34 PM

Since you got LB7 Diesel flash in there too now!

Wonder if read write can be added for 96, 97 and 98-00 Vortec Black Box PCM?

antus

08-16-2013, 05:02 AM

Well, the duramax just happened to work. You can try a black box PCM, but Its an early enough generation that I do not expect it to work. I wont say never for write support, but at this stage it will only be if the pcms happen to be compatible with the 0411. Register interest in this thread though.

EagleMark

08-19-2013, 06:52 AM

I have a 1998 Vortec Black Box PCM here on the bench so I gave the Flash tool a test. 98-00 are same although they do have several OS. Looks to be working but seed/key issue? Here is what I got. If you'd like to add this just walk me through what is needed.

Init:
AVT device reset ok
Model: 852
Firmware: 1.1
Identify:
AVT device reset ok
AVT VPW mode ok
Set AVT filter
Received OSID: 16263425
Failed to read block 8
Received Calibration ID: 0
Failed to read block 7
Received PCM Serial No: QC724786
Received VIN: 2GCEC19RXW1123841
Received BCC: CCSF
Received MEC: 0
Disable message transmission accepted
Calculated Key: D4F6
PCM Failed to Unlock

Also with the first flash test software you sent I used the Identify PCM and got this.

TX: F1 A5
Avt device reset ok
TX: E1 33
Avt VPW mode ok
Set AVT filter
Successful read of block 10
Received OSID: 16263425
Failed to read block 8
Received PCMID: 0
Successful read of block 5
Successful read of block 6
Failed to read block 7
Successful read of block 7
Received PCM Serial No: QC724786
Successful read of block 1
Successful read of block 2
Successful read of block 3
Received VIN: 2GCEC19RXW1123841
Successful read of block 20
Received BCC: CCSF
Successful read of block 160
Received MEC: 0

Playtoy_18

08-19-2013, 08:43 AM

If you had a spreadsheet listing the security,read and program algorithim for most all the OSID's from 1996 up to last few years V6/V8 would that help any?
I have a file that looks really helpful,but I haven't broke thru that ah-ha moment with the adx/vdf's for it to be of any use to me yet.

antus

08-19-2013, 09:07 AM

I should be able to work it out without that. I have PMd eaglemark so we can do some testing.

antus

08-20-2013, 02:38 PM

V1.05 has been released. It can unlock black box pcms and display your seed/key, but they have been found to be incompatible so no read support at this stage.

Ive also set the virtual serial speed to match the serial avts, so its possible they might work now. I'd be interested in any reports from anyone who can test.

The read speeds have also been improved.

Six_Shooter

08-22-2013, 08:03 AM

Colour me as interested. :D

I don't have a cable currently, but will look for one, unless you think a beta unit of yours will be available soon? I've been wanting to get into OBDII PCMs, but the expensive software has kept that from happening. I also haven't been able to decide on which software is the best to get...

Lextech

08-22-2013, 02:28 PM

I've been wanting to get into OBDII PCMs, but the expensive software has kept that from happening. I also haven't been able to decide on which software is the best to get...

If your choice is between HPTuners and EFILive---I would recommend EFILive. I don't like HPTuners tune credit setup or their VIN/OS match. With HPTuners the year of the OS has to match the year of the VIN. If it doesn't you can't read or write to the ECM. So, for retrofit projects that must have the vehicles VIN---HPT is out. It also appears that you can't modify a calibration unless you license it. So, if someone wants to send you a tune to look at, you can't edit that tune unless you license it for 2 credits. I don't own HPT but, that is how I understand it.

Jeff

RobertISaar

08-22-2013, 06:23 PM

EFI-Live tends to have a very small list of supported applications, though they're usually well defined. there are exceptions of course.

HPT supports almost everything, though they can be a bit light on what can be edited.

Buzz

08-22-2013, 07:09 PM

... EFI-Live tends to have a very small list of supported applications...

Going to respectfully disagree with you on this point ... if you look at the supported controllers from the EFILive home page, it will become evident they support nearly every V8 engine platform from 1998 onward.

They do have limited support for 4 and 6 cylinder engines ... but again, no offense intended, most Hot Rod builds will use a V8 engine.

I have never worked with 4 or 6 cylinder engines, and have no plans to do so.

EFILive or Tunercat are more user friendly - as both allow users to define / create their own parameters based on individual need. EFILive does this via user defined CAX files, Tunercat allows users to modify the VDF files.

HPT does not allow for any such user input / customization.

As Jeff pointed out - EFILive affords the user the ability to make and save changes to a tune without having to license it - which allows for greater peer support among enthusiasts.

I own them all - HPT is my least favorite.

Just my opinion ...

RobertISaar

08-22-2013, 07:18 PM

not everyone is going to be tuning a V8 though... in fact, i would almost exclusively be playing with 3100/3400/3800 powered cars. it's too bad DHP isn't still around, since that would have covered me in 90% of situations.

Six_Shooter

08-22-2013, 07:55 PM

I am also interested in tuning 6 cylinder applications, both HPT and EFI-live seem to lack support here. More and more engine swaps are being done with less than 8 cylinders.

EagleMark

08-22-2013, 08:15 PM

Looks like an 0411 PCM with this flash tool and a TunerPro XDF is all the V6 guys would need? So how many V6 0411 cars are out there?

As far as EFI Live and HP Tuner? The HP Tuner credit system just puts it into unobtainium for doing conversions, PCM swaps, OS swaps, engine swaps..VIN Changes... I can do what ever I want with EFI Live and one license. Don't even need the license to work on files and help someone collaborate.

Six_Shooter

08-22-2013, 08:18 PM

Looks like an 0411 PCM with this flash tool and a TunerPro XDF is all the V6 guys would need?

For most custom swaps, I would agree, it's the cars that are originally V6, where tuning is needed that must stay with the original PCM, around here anyway, due to our new "E-test", that scans the PCM for the readiness of emissions monitors.

antus

08-24-2013, 05:02 PM

Of efilive vs hpt I would also say efilive. But for hobbyists hopefully this tool is the best option :)

mecanicman

09-03-2013, 06:28 AM

Has this been tried on v6 computers yet? If anyone has a cable available for sale I am interested.

antus

09-03-2013, 07:38 AM

Yes, it has been tested, but did not work. There is a possibility that v6 will be supported one day, but not yet.

Six_Shooter

09-03-2013, 07:53 AM

Yes, it has been tested, but did not work. There is a possibility that v6 will be supported one day, but not yet.

This is what I'd really be interested in, namely the PCMs for the 60degreeV6 family, 3100, 3400 and 3500.

Is there a way to use an LSx PCM on a V6, such as a cylinder select scaler found in older code?

JeepsAndGuns

09-03-2013, 02:28 PM

Seeing as how some 4.3 equiped vehicles came with a 411, I would assume so, but knowing nothing about them, I dont know how its done.

dave w

09-03-2013, 03:06 PM

This is what I'd really be interested in, namely the PCMs for the 60degreeV6 family, 3100, 3400 and 3500.

Is there a way to use an LSx PCM on a V6, such as a cylinder select scaler found in older code?

I've only seen the 3x crank sensor system with the 4.3 liter V6 / '0411 PCM. The challenge I see with a 60 degree V6 per cylinder coil ignition would be designing an 18x crank sensor system. Attached is a .bin form a 2001 Chevy S10 4.3 liter.

dave w

Six_Shooter

09-03-2013, 03:13 PM

I'm not worried about retaining the original ignition system of the 60 degree v6, and making a crank trigger is not much of a concern. My biggest concern is that the code is able to run in a true 6cyl mode without needing to fudge numbers or do any weird tricks to get the RPM and ignition side to work. I just don't want to have to switch to dizzy like the 4.3 uses.

I'll have a look at that bin later.

RobertISaar

09-03-2013, 06:01 PM

i'd say the 4.3 stuff would control it reasonably well as long as a reference signal offset value can be played with. might have to reorder the injectors, but not much else.

copying all of the 60V6 tables into it..... that could take some time.

1project2many

09-05-2013, 07:03 AM

Still haven't had a chance to try the software but thinking about cables and cost.

Here is a link to pictures of a VPW programming cable:
https://www.scantool.net/forum/index.php?topic=1191.0

This is rumored to be the same cable:

RobertISaar

09-05-2013, 08:12 AM

i would need to find the instruction set for the 68HC908, but that looks super simple compared to some other solutions i've seen.

1project2many

09-05-2013, 08:18 AM

Yep. Introduced for LT1 cars and possibly based on original GM Off Board Programming Device.

antus

09-05-2013, 08:29 AM

The only problem is the 68HC58 is EOL. But I bet it is still available somewhere. Its the VPW chip the pcms use, as well as the AVTs. Definitely the best way to do it. But not the only way, and still requires firmware, though a lot of code would be very similar to whats in the pcm. Ive been testing a mega 2560 based circuit with opto-isolators as a front end. Have the VPW triggering interrupts but its not collecting all of them so isnt usable. Still a work in progress.

antus

09-11-2013, 04:22 AM

Jayme has updated the AVT 852 ADX. It now supports 1x and 4x in the same ADX, can read trouble codes (DTCs), and supports wideband in the data stream via the AVTs ADC input where fitted. We have successfully retrofitted this to some of our cables, and will provide details. SMD soldering required.

http://pcmhacking.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=2314#p22289

34blazer

09-11-2013, 06:30 AM

Nice work! Too bad I could get this to work with the JTEC!

mecanicman

10-08-2013, 05:58 AM

Any updates? Eta on software release and cable availability?

antus

10-08-2013, 08:59 AM

The project is still alive but there are no updates currently. Thanks for the interest, knowing people are waiting and want it helps provide the motivation to make time to work on it.

Lextech

10-08-2013, 01:32 PM

Knowing people are waiting and want it helps provide the motivation to make time to work on it.
I want it. I will even PayPal a deposit in advance to help "Incentivize" the project.

Jeff

mecanicman

10-08-2013, 04:47 PM

I want it. I will even PayPal a deposit in advance to help "Incentivize" the project.

Jeff

X2^^^^^^

JeepsAndGuns

10-09-2013, 02:05 AM

An afforadable LS fash program with no highway robbery licenceing, who would not want it?
I would even be willing to toss a little money your way too.

Six_Shooter

10-09-2013, 03:09 AM

I'm seriously interested in a cable and the software.

I was trying to look into what cable will work with the software and where I could get it from, but with school, my time has been too limited to do this.

So give me a price and any pertinent details, and we go from there.

dave w

10-09-2013, 07:06 AM

Pretty much in above post. Right now would be cable only at $300.

It only works with AVT cables at this point and you have to have an account with them, no individual sales. Antus from Delcohacking has the account and offered the USA re seller end to me/GearHead-EFI.com

They are working on a cheaper cable, but it will never be as good as the AVT.

When we get 5 then either PayPal or mail me a check so I can get the order in, shipped to me and then reshipped back out. They will not drop ship.

1. Six Shooter
2. Lextech
3. mechanicman

I'm on the fence for this. I can read / write / tune with my EFI Live V2. I could spend $3K for an EFI Live Stream License for unlimited flashes, but that would be for only one type of PCM (LS1B aka 1999 ~ 2009 LSx, E38, E67, E37, E40, E35, E60, ect). Should I spend $300 for a cable only? If I'm understanding this correctly, at this point in time, the cable and software would allow read only (.bin file) and data logging only (TunerPro RT)?

dave w

EagleMark

10-09-2013, 08:13 AM

I'm on the fence for this. I can read / write / tune with my EFI Live V2. I could spend $3K for an EFI Live Stream License for unlimited flashes, but that would be for only one type of PCM (LS1B aka 1999 ~ 2009) all the others are another $3000 like LSx, E38, E67, E37, E40, E35, E60, ect.) Should I spend $300 for a cable only? If I'm understanding this correctly, at this point in time, the cable and software would allow read only (.bin file) and data logging only (TunerPro RT)?

dave wI fixed your post in bold! And at this point only Ls1b is being developed for write in Flash Tool.

Currently the Flash tool does not write, correct. Well it does but not to point of release. This group buy is for cables only to help guys in development stages. Software when ready for public write will be s seperate sale at $100.

antus

10-09-2013, 08:18 AM

Good to see the interest :)

dave, you are correct about what you can currently do. I do expect write to get there, but until its done its possible (but unlikely) that show stoppers will come up. EFI Live is a great package and if you are a shop that can afford the stream licensing its probably what I would do. BEN Maps and cut and paste and multiply with labels is a great feature :) (I did a professional EFILive course a couple of weeks ago)....

As for my software the wideband and DTC support for the cable is in Jaymes current ADX. available here: http://pcmhacking.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=2314

The current development copy of the software can talk to the control part of the flash chip, and I have it reporting the manufacturer ID and part ID and it will tell you what chip it is from a lookup table. This will be useful for the 1mbit PCMs. I expect those to be an AMD chip whereas the 512kb are intel. Support will be possible but will come after the 512kb support is debugged (yes, the first cut is written - its coming together now).

dave w

10-09-2013, 07:47 PM

OK, that's four! :jfj:

Does anyone have a LS1B .xdf, .adx, & .xdl I can preview?

dave w

JeepsAndGuns

10-10-2013, 02:48 AM

Not knowing anything about the cable, what makes it special/different that makes it so expensive, and why couldnt something like the autoprom be used? All this OBD2 stuff is new to me, I'm just wanting to learn.

EagleMark

10-10-2013, 03:21 AM

Does anyone have a LS1B .xdf, .adx, & .xdl I can preview?

dave wHere's what we have so far.
http://www.gearhead-efi.com/Fuel-Injection/showthread.php?2386-TunerPro-XDF-for-0411-LS1-PCM-Project!

I've used the ADX files made by Jayme at Delcohacking. For anyone familiar with tuning OBDI and useing TunerPro Rt it's a simple transition.

I also used Dimented24x7 xdf and dissasembly along with TunerPro tools along with about 100 hours and found most everything is simalar, identical or close in the 12212156 OS which is the one everyone will want to use and handles the Vortec. Maybe anther 20-40 hours of work and testing and it will be a complete XDF with auto trans functions as well.

marolf101x

10-25-2013, 03:32 PM

I fixed your post in bold! And at this point only Ls1b is being developed for write in Flash Tool.

Currently the Flash tool does not write, correct. Well it does but not to point of release. This group buy is for cables only to help guys in development stages. Software when ready for public write will be s seperate sale at $100.

Any new info on the inexpensive cable and the software that will write to a 411?

antus

10-30-2013, 06:38 AM

Sorry no news, having trouble finding time amongst other projects. Still want to complete this!

PJG1173

11-13-2013, 10:51 PM

subscribed :popcorn::popcorn:

if this is the site for the avt cables OMG thats expensive...
http://www.avt-hq.com/price.htm

Curt44319

12-02-2013, 02:27 AM

Thanks for the interest, knowing people are waiting and want it helps provide the motivation to make time to work on it. Crawling out of the woodwork to let you know that people are waiting, deep in the woodwork, and do want.

EagleMark

12-02-2013, 02:31 AM

Still waiting for number 5 to sign up for the group buy of the AVT cables? Spread the word...

http://www.gearhead-efi.com/Fuel-Injection/showthread.php?2387-Group-Buy-for-LS1-Flash-Tool-AVT-852-cable!

Curt44319

12-02-2013, 03:45 AM

Still waiting for number 5 to sign up for the group buy of the AVT cables? Spread the word... Much as I'd like to jump on that right now, I'm a self-employed victim of Obamacare, so it's not a good time. But, I will check with a friend. Maybe we can split cost or something....

dually681

12-02-2013, 10:04 PM

how much area the cables? im interested....

phonedawgz

12-08-2013, 12:32 AM

So the cable connects to the laptop via serial???!

Still haven't had a chance to try the software but thinking about cables and cost.

Here is a link to pictures of a VPW programming cable:
https://www.scantool.net/forum/index.php?topic=1191.0

This is rumored to be the same cable:

EagleMark

12-08-2013, 04:26 AM

how much area the cables? im interested....$300, first post of this thread.
http://www.gearhead-efi.com/Fuel-Injection/showthread.php?2387-Group-Buy-for-LS1-Flash-Tool-AVT-852-cable!

EagleMark

12-08-2013, 04:27 AM

So the cable connects to the laptop via serial???!No, USB. And they also have AD port for WB. That post about serial was off topic.

babywag

12-17-2013, 06:58 PM

Can VATS be disabled/VIN# changed with this software?

mecanicman

12-18-2013, 09:48 PM

Antus, I am sure with christmas coming up your even more busy like the rest of us are, but I am going to ask anyway. Any updates on the flash version of the software?

antus

12-27-2013, 03:05 AM

@babywag: you can change vin, but not vats until it can write a calibration.

@mecanicman: Sorry no updates.

Munchies

12-30-2013, 09:50 PM

Will donations help move project along? I would hate to buy an AVT cable and have the project die out.

mecanicman

01-11-2014, 07:17 AM

I bought a 99 sierra yesterday and picked up my avt cable today. Decided the sierra would be by first victom to try the ls1 flash tool on. I was able to connect and identify pcm no problem, showed me vin, pcm id, ect. I then tried to read the bin. Got some errors and turn my check engine light on and truck would not start. Hooked up with hpt and connected and check engine light went away and it started. Tried this a couple times with same results. This was with version 1.05. I tried version 1.04 and it crashed and gave me log when I tried. I then hooked up and read the bin out with hpt without issue. I am running windows 7, is it my pc or something wrong with cable. Anyone else use windows 7 and have any issues?

Antus, I have screen shot of what ls1 flash says when it fails and the crash log if you want them.

mecanicman

04-19-2014, 06:13 AM

So after it was explained to me that this software was intended for benchtop flashing only, I have put together a benchtop harness and it works great! I have pulled all kinds of bin files to ad to my collection, not one issue so far. It is a little bit slower than hpt in its current form(236 seconds as opposed to hpt 132 seconds on same pcm), but I have had zero issues. Vey excited to have a working flashing version. So Antus, how goes the progress?

buddrow

06-12-2014, 06:55 PM

neruve

06-23-2014, 04:58 PM

Bump! Would also like to know if there has been any progress made.

Also, Is the cable that comes with the Jet Dynamic Spectrum tuner the same one that is needed for this? If one already had this package could that cable be used with the application being developed?

-neruve

Scott68B

11-27-2014, 06:45 PM

I'm sure everyone knows about this by now but I don't see it here so I'll post it:

http://www.thirdgen.org/forums/diy-prom/696609-houston-we-have-reflash-4.html#post5844169

Does anyone have any TunerPro XDFs that support '02 and above OS for the 0411?

mekkis

11-27-2014, 09:36 PM

Scott68B

11-27-2014, 10:58 PM

ESET flags it as a trojan, it crashes when I try to fire it up on an XP sp3 virtual machine. Meh.

I haven't gotten it to work yet either but I don't need it yet. I tried it first on my XP laptop and got the same thing. Tried it on my Windows 7 machine and it wanted the .NET framework installed. I suspect it's your environment not the application.

mecanicman

11-28-2014, 02:18 AM

My virus scan didn't flag anything before or after unzip. Works fine on xp and 7.

MikeOD

11-29-2014, 06:24 PM

If I understand correctly, this tool is able to support the green/ble PCM's too? Once I actually open the app up, I'm not sure I understand what's supported as it says "Works with GM 411 type PCM's", but on this thread http://pcmhacking.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3111 I see note of the 1mb LS1's as well...but I guess they're actually different tools from different programmers?

Either way, this is awesome.

Lextech

11-30-2014, 04:13 PM

I guess they're actually different tools from different programmers?

That's my question as well. Is this the finished product started by Antus or is this a different program?

Jeff

Scott68B

11-30-2014, 04:24 PM

It appears to be a different application. If you read the thread I referenced above you'll see the author adapted an app he wrote for the blackbox PCM to the 0411.

Montecarlodrag

01-03-2015, 06:15 PM

That's my question as well. Is this the finished product started by Antus or is this a different program?

Jeff
They are different, used both and they work very different. Antus's tool has not been updated in a while and has no write capabilities yet
Both great tools tho

rattlecanrembrant

09-17-2015, 07:10 AM

Are we still looking for a 5th person to pitch in for a cable? Just read the entire thread and am super stoked about this! Working on catching up on C++ and one day (far, far into the future) I'd be able to help with the programming of this project. I'm a Systems Engineer by trade (because I couldn't make enough money as a wrench bender)

mecanicman

09-17-2015, 08:13 AM

beenba

02-05-2016, 08:38 PM

delete

NSFW

01-01-2019, 06:20 AM

Sorry, your 2 years late. The cables were ordered and distributed. Sadly the organizer of the purchase EagleMark passed away. Antus software has not advanced either, although reads and changes vins very well.

Well, actually... Antus and I, and a couple other guys, have been working on a rewrite of his software, and while there's still more to be done, it's basically working now. It mostly just needs more testing to shake out the bugs, and some extra validation to prevent people from shooting themselves in the foot.

It supports the same AVT cables as his original version, but it also supports the USB version of the AllPro interface, which is only about $40. Or J2534 tools. Or the ScanTool SX, though that's relatively slow.

http://pcmhammer.org - this will redirect to GitHub. Click "Releases" and download the most recent one.

http://www.obddiag.net/products.html (No affiliation, I just really like this product.)

:rockon:

Thorwon

09-24-2021, 04:02 PM

I love the Xpro VT cable.

Full read 2 min 24 sec. Full write 1 min 9 sec. on a 0411 pcm.

This is some assume software NSFW.

1712317124

ken2028

02-28-2024, 05:31 PM

Why??

LS1Flash-free.exe
Threat Name: Trojan.Gen.MBT

Norton AntiVirus?

antus

02-28-2024, 05:57 PM

False positive with that AV. Early versions were packed with confuser because of perceived potential IP theft when it was more ground breaking. I ended up partnering with NSFW and later others and we ended up going open source (so no need to pack anything) and all the IP in this tool+ later development (support for PCM writing, and support more PCMs) ended up in PCMHammer.

mekkis

02-28-2024, 07:02 PM

2002 troll answer: NORTON CAN NOT HELP YOU NOW

Real answer: Any .exe that tries to encrypt their IP, not by a big name software vendor who is able to pay AV companies to vet their product, gets flagged. False positives are pretty much all you will see from the little guys trying to make a living, or god help you maintain closed source freeware. If you are worried buy an old laptop for $75, run no AV, keep it offline as much as the softwares will let you, and NEVER log into anything a hacker could use to take you for a financial or identity ride.