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96HawkCnvt
06-30-2013, 03:32 AM
So we just fired up a 5.3 in my son's RX7 for the first time. Now that we have it running, I need to get the right tune dialed in for it. It is a L33 out of a 2006 Silverado with the associated DBW components. From what I understand and have seen, I need to use 2006 or 2007 (I think) so that it matches the TB & TAC module. I would like to swap in a manual transmission segment or find a file that starts out manual. Current file that I'm using is op. system: 12587811

Any ideas greatly appreciated!

Todd

Lextech
06-30-2013, 06:25 AM
I can't find anything 06 with a manual trans except the Vette and it uses an ECM/TCM so it's not compatible with your project. I "Believe" your 06 DBW components are compatible with 03-07 truck calibrations. I have an 04 truck DBW manual calibration. You didn't mention what format you need it in---Incase someone has exactly what you are looking for.

Jeff

96HawkCnvt
06-30-2013, 07:40 AM
Thanks Lextech. The DBW components that we used (TB, TAC, Pedal assembly) are all from 2006. I first tried a 2004 file since I knew that there were 2004 manual trans & in fact there are some posted here. But I got a DBW not communicating error right away. With a 2006 file loaded up, no problem with the DBW. I'm thinking that there should be a 2006 base truck 4x2 w/manual but I'm not positive.

And thanks for noting that I need to mention what type of file I need. I'm working with TunerCat so I need a .cal file.

Thanks!

Playtoy_18
06-30-2013, 12:32 PM
You can also use a .bin file.
I'm doing the opposite right now and changing a DBW/Allison file to a DBC/4L80E file.

I have a couple 4.8L manual trans files that should work,just segment swap the 5.3 in.
Having an issue getting them to open on my desktop,I'll need to get on my laptop.
Some stuff has gotten corrupted in transition from one to the other it seems.

Cancel that,mine was 2004 model.

Playtoy_18
06-30-2013, 02:42 PM
Here is a 2004 4.8 manual if you want to try segment swapping the manual into your 2006 file.

96HawkCnvt
06-30-2013, 07:13 PM
Here is a 2004 4.8 manual if you want to try segment swapping the manual into your 2006 file.

I don't think that I can swap segments with that because the operating system will be different. True?

Playtoy_18
06-30-2013, 10:15 PM
Not sure,some you can and some you can't pretty sure. They are both 1m pcm's so maybe?
Unfortunately 2006 is one of the vdf's I guess I don't have,so can't check (I tried to open to swap earlier).
when i'm back on laptop in a few I will try swapping the 5.3 into the 2004 file?
Maybe swapping all the diag,system and engine modules would work?
Just random thinking,no clue if it will work but i'll give it a try.

EagleMark
06-30-2013, 10:45 PM
That is listed as a LS1b PCM, could you not change to an ealier 512k cal/bin and do this? Or would that require another PCM and not sure about TAC?

Skinny Pedal
06-30-2013, 11:13 PM
You could easily get an older tac and swap it in, just use a 1mb pcm tac. The 2006 is a different tac module but the pedal will work. We have swapped for an older tac module and then run the appropriate OS. If you just flash the earlier OS you will get the comms error.

96HawkCnvt
06-30-2013, 11:35 PM
That is listed as a LS1b PCM, could you not change to an ealier 512k cal/bin and do this? Or would that require another PCM and not sure about TAC?

The DBW is working fine so I don't really want to change to a 512k pcm. I can get the trans section setup for the T56, was just trying to save some time.

96HawkCnvt
06-30-2013, 11:37 PM
You could easily get an older tac and swap it in, just use a 1mb pcm tac. The 2006 is a different tac module but the pedal will work. We have swapped for an older tac module and then run the appropriate OS. If you just flash the earlier OS you will get the comms error.

Maybe a misunderstanding... I'm not looking to make any changes to the DBW because it's working fine. I'm only asking about a manual transmission cal so that I could use it as a base or swap the trans module into the current file I'm using.

Skinny Pedal
06-30-2013, 11:46 PM
I understand that, I was just giving an easy way to get into an OS that would give you a manual.

Buzz
07-01-2013, 01:45 AM
... I would like to swap in a manual transmission segment or find a file that starts out manual. Current file that I'm using is op. system: 12587811 ...

2006 Sierra / Silverado with the 4.3L V6 had manual transmissions. These used the same OS as did the V8 trucks. This is what you will need to find. The OS were subject to update - yours is the oldest, potentially making it harder to find.

The 2006 truck OS evolution was: 12587811 > 12605114 > 12606807 > 12613246

I have the 12606807 OS on file - but not in *.bin or *.cal format.

Lextech
07-01-2013, 03:34 AM
Bummer.

96HawkCnvt
07-01-2013, 07:19 AM
Thanks Buzz. That's very helpful. Wonder if anyone else here happens to have the files that I could use. Or I'll find the right truck on a used car lot and go for an extended "test drive" ;)

Lextech
07-03-2013, 02:36 PM
Here is a 2006, 4.3, M/T, DBC calibration. I take NO credit for this one. A friend of mine gave me this one. It is a Drive by Cable but you should be able to segment swap the trans calibration and diagnostics into your calibration.

Jeff

96HawkCnvt
07-03-2013, 04:35 PM
Thanks Lextech, I may give that a try. I did also find a 4.8L MT file that looks good and I tried it last night. I swapped in a 5.3 engine module but after doing that it was in some sort of limp mode or something. Would only rev to about 1500 rpm etc. I did some analysis and as it turns out, the module that I swapped in was a Flex Fuel version (very different injector tables etc.). So I'm thinking it is the Flex Fuel settings that are messing me up. And I can't imagine just flipping the main switch will help much since there are many other differences.

Does anyone have a 2006 5.3 NON-FLEX with operating system 12582811 ? If so, I would really appreciate it if you could post it up.

Maybe going back to the other OP and using the MT module from Lextech's 4.3 file will do the trick as well. Any thoughts on the best way to proceed on this one?

Thanks!
Todd

Buzz
07-04-2013, 03:27 PM
Jeff - that file should be what he needs. All V6 truck of that era were DBC. The "Hex Edit" in the file name causes some concern though !

Lextech
07-04-2013, 06:14 PM
Jeff - that file should be what he needs. All V6 truck of that era were DBC. The "Hex Edit" in the file name causes some concern though !
Ya, I know what you mean. But, that is the way I got it. And since he is flashing it himself, it should be easy enough to "Guinea Pig" it to see if it works. I do trust the maker of that calibration VERY much with this stuff.

Jeff

96HawkCnvt
07-04-2013, 10:23 PM
Jeff - that file should be what he needs. All V6 truck of that era were DBC. The "Hex Edit" in the file name causes some concern though !

I'm going to give it a try today. Do you think it being DBC will mess me up when I'm only moving the trans module over?

And by the way, I do appreciate all the help :)

And still wouldn't mind trying a non-flex, DBW, 5.3 engine module (OS 12582811) in my 4.8L MT file if anyone runs across one of those. in m

Todd

EagleMark
07-04-2013, 11:01 PM
There's a ton of OBDII files I have not checked or titled properly here:
http://www.gearhead-efi.com/gearhead-efi/OBDII/

96HawkCnvt
07-05-2013, 08:20 AM
There's a ton of OBDII files I have not checked or titled properly here:
http://www.gearhead-efi.com/gearhead-efi/OBDII/

Thanks! That was very helpful. I was able to find some LM7 files with the same OS as my LR4 MT file and then also found a 2006 L33 file (different OS) and was able to compare to an LM7 and then export/import the tables that were different.

Now I just need to figure out the injectors (from LS1/LS6) and I should be really close to stock (LS1 intake manifold, LS3 exhaust manifolds & custom CAI). Then we'll log some data and see where we are at.

If all goes well, I should have a good 2006 L33 MT file for anyone else that might need it. I posted a pic of our project. It is my son's '85 RX7.

Anyway, thanks again for all of the help.

Todd4913

greg82
08-04-2022, 07:00 PM
really old thread... but thought I would post that I have a 2006 Chevy 2500 HD with a 6.0 and NV4500 manual trans. The OS is 12587811 and I have the xdf for it if needed.

Pulse_GTO
08-04-2022, 08:57 PM
really old thread... but thought I would post that I have a 2006 Chevy 2500 HD with a 6.0 and NV4500 manual trans. The OS is 12587811 and I have the xdf for it if needed.

Don't be shy, share them!

greg82
08-05-2022, 02:26 AM
I can't upload files, so here's a shared file link https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zq171_wmK54-2YZyiormK_oD809jwN3G/view?usp=sharing

Maybe someone can download it and upload it back?

What I don't see in the xdf is the VATS, maybe it's called something else?

greg82
08-06-2022, 12:00 AM
Looks like it's called VTD in this version of the OS / XDF . I'm going to try changing the parameters and writing the PCM.