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rainstate
05-03-2011, 10:52 PM
was wondering what kind of assemblers\disassemblers you guys are using.I've i've tried the cats and the ida freeware but am having a hard time getting them to assemble.(tried getting it to assemble with tech edge but cant get it to work right.) thanks for your input

RobertISaar
05-04-2011, 02:10 AM
the CATS disassembler is a joke.

IDA Pro is by far the best i've ever used.

i've never actually used an assembler though, i i punch out all of my code mods in machine code.

what BIN are you trying to deal with?

rainstate
05-04-2011, 06:15 PM
It's a gm 6.5 TD. bin 16183977 . I have a XDF for it I found on line a few years back but I don't think its complete.I think that there is some extra I\O that I could utilize for some thing else.

rainstate
05-04-2011, 06:26 PM
$EC mask

RobertISaar
05-04-2011, 06:33 PM
i'm certain i have an XDF for that, likely the same one you have, and IIRC, i thought it was rather bare as well, but i know nothing about the diesel masks.

if you upload the BIN you're planning on working with, i can at least get you started on a disassembly and should you happen to run across someone with a full version of IDA Pro(cough cough), i'll upload the IDB file as well.

rainstate
05-05-2011, 03:53 AM
it's loaded

thanks

RobertISaar
05-05-2011, 04:50 PM
it looks to be an $EC BIN, but are you certain the BIN pulled is good? i only used just the reset vector to start disassembling, and it's got all kinds of weird stuff going on, like trying to use some of the calibration as algorithm....

rainstate
05-06-2011, 05:24 AM
yeah its a good one.pulled it straight from my truck.
I did a memory dump through the ALDL though,
That might be the problem.

rainstate
05-06-2011, 05:33 AM
I burned my last couple of chips with this bin and it works with the XDF I have, but I cant remember if I checked the chips bin with the memory dump bin.I destroyed my burner when I moved a few months ago and need to replace it.

thanks for looking.I'll post a new bin when I get a new burner

rainstate
05-06-2011, 05:43 AM
actually I have another $EC bin that I got from the moates site, dont know if it was read through a burner or memory dump, here it is.[attachment=0:29ljbwnb]BXYR EC.bin[/attachment:29ljbwnb]

RobertISaar
05-06-2011, 05:54 AM
that one disassembles oddly as well...

rainstate
05-06-2011, 06:01 AM
I should be able to have a new burner in a few weeks.( daughter needed a prom dress and everything that goes with it :rolleye: )

rainstate
06-24-2011, 05:14 AM
Well I finally have found the time to use my new burner,had it for nearly a month, and you where right it does look funny.pulling it from the ALDL puts it in a different mode? Any how it comes out the same in the XDF though. If you where still interested in looking at it, it would be appreciated greatly.

1project2many
06-27-2011, 09:19 AM
I've used Donald Whisnant's code seeking disassembler for a bunch of GM work. I have Ida Pro and a few Moto specific disassemblers left over from a few years in school but the Moto specific tools run into problems with some of the addresses used by the GM processors.

My calibration ID software tags first.bin as being BPBN7103 which is from a 1994 6.5 turbo diesel with 4 speed auto trans. I also crossed the scan id (7125) from the uploaded cal against the scan ID for BJAX (6945) and they do not match. If you are truly using a 1994 calibration you might want to upgrade to a 1995 version. There were a lot of driveability bugs in the early cals.

RobertISaar
06-27-2011, 07:02 PM
i found the PROM ID of the latest uploaded file to be correct... at least according to CalData.

$4000-4001: 1B 21 = 6945.


the only cals that use 6945 for their scan ID are BJAX and BPAL.

rainstate
06-28-2011, 04:51 AM
YOU BOTH ARE CORRECT.FIRST BIN IS 7125 THE STOCK CHIP. THE LATEST IS A MODIFIED BJAX BIN .SORRY FOR THE CONFUSION . I REALLY NEED TO REORGANIZE MY FILES SO I DON'T GET CONFUSED. :doh:

rainstate
06-28-2011, 05:03 AM
This is the original BPBN file. ( It's a dog ) The other file is pretty good though.you can't use it if you've got certain tranny upgrades though.you'll fry all clutches , steels and band along with reaction gear housing . I found out the hard way playing with the tranny files. :sad:

kinda of an expensive learning curve.

thanks for looking.

rainstate
06-28-2011, 06:20 AM
i've heard good things about Donalds whisnant's disassembler but haven't been able to find it anywhere, any clues ?

1project2many
06-29-2011, 02:18 PM
Looks like Dewtronics is not Donald's company anymore. I'll try to remember to send a copy over the next few days.

1project2many
06-30-2011, 04:50 AM
Found it on the web. This way anyone who wants a copy can get it.

http://carprogrammer.com/Z28/PCM/disass ... 811dis.zip (http://carprogrammer.com/Z28/PCM/disassembly/m6811dis.zip)

Be sure to read the instructions.
HTH

rainstate
06-30-2011, 04:58 AM
cool thanks I'll check it out when I get some time