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BeBop
07-01-2012, 09:30 PM
Fast ( comp cams ) has a self programing ecu ....... really ? does it work ?
Thanks Bee

RobertISaar
07-02-2012, 02:00 AM
most of the "self-tuning" units are fuel only.... they use a wideband sensor and basically update a VE table or correct a MAF constantly. i've never used one myself, but if i had to guess, i'd say that transient fueling would need to be taken care of manually.

Six_Shooter
07-02-2012, 02:57 AM
Of the few installs that I know of, none work properly. Yes, the engines run, but they can be unpredictable to how they will respond when you put the pedal down.

Cruise also seems to be unpredictable at times, but a little more consistent than WOT.

Personally, I've never seen great results from self tuning systems or using VE table tuners.

96lt4c4
07-29-2012, 06:42 AM
I have not seen any aftermarket ECM's that even come close to the power of the later model GM PCM's.

EagleMark
07-29-2012, 07:53 AM
That's because no aftermarket company can match GM $ spent on development.

I've only had hands on one miricle EFI system, after months of tech support, i had it for a couple days, we were told there was something wrong with engine. Which we already checked and was not. Installed a GM system and ran fine...

droptopstng
07-30-2012, 05:46 AM
great topic been wondering this myself

IndyPaceCar
08-01-2014, 05:05 PM
We're working on running a FAST EZ-EFI Throttle Body with Delco ECM right now.
http://www.gearhead-efi.com/Fuel-Injection/showthread.php?3541-we-re-working-on-it-%29

The conclusion was "there's nothing wrong - but it just won't work right" :rolleye:

mekkis
08-02-2014, 05:52 AM
They run alright for the sort of guy who drops an out of the box carb on an engine with heads, cam, does no tuning and thinks it's great. Most of the time. Then you have interesting issues. The new FAST unit lets you set an advance curve, like a mechanical advance distributor. I'm pretty sure others do, too.

I'm not a fan of something that complex that you can't adjust ALL of the parameters manually. It's hard to give the motor what it likes when the sensors lie.

steveo
08-02-2014, 07:27 AM
there's something to be said for software design which requires less parameters, and less detailed adjustment.

but the fact of the matter is that the average ecm doesnt have any real finite knowledge of parameters for which there are no sensors.

'responsiveness'. 'smoothness'. stuff like that.

these are things that are based on ignition timing and transitional fueling, which can't really be self-tuned.

for something that has a good balance, a noob-mode as well as in-depth parameters for the experienced tuner as well as a bit of self-tuning ability for air/fuel ratio both narrowband and wideband (if you feed it a good enough base bin), might i suggest a gm ecm with EBL? never used one, but looks like it covers all that.